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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
No, I'm not disputing your subjective testimony or evidence.
You did when you said we hate god and curse our parents, opening ourselves to demonic possession.
The point about God is that his ways are higher than the ways of men - much higher. (I also speak for myself. I find myself thinking, how naive I was back then, to think like I thought back then.) Christianity transforms the mind of men to see things in an altogether different light. It's not good to be stuck in the past.
And yet he can't even bother to set the myriad of Christian denominations straight on whos correct, with this ocean of denominations occuring because Christians themselves often disagree as to what the Bible means. So they've started so many different denominations and churches that Christianity today bears scant resemblance to how it was when it was first established. Since then it's become heavily politicized, had hefty doses of Paganism injected into its genetic code, and even accepts a man claiming to speak for god who came after Jesus, despite Jesus' warnings against such a person.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Matt 12:37 shows that words are very important. The vocabulary of transgenderism is not of God, and IMO does not measure up to biblical standards. If it does, prove it. You've not posted one evidence that serves to reconcile Christianity and transgenderism. Doubtless you've got many in the episcopal church on your wavelength, but they're not on mine.


Transgenderism, epilepsy, cancer, and hypothyroidism for example aren't in scripture. How do they related to humanism for their lack of being brought up before the common era?


Some illnesses are more biblical than others?
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Matt 12:37 shows that words are very important. The vocabulary of transgenderism is not of God, and IMO does not measure up to biblical standards. If it does, prove it. You've not posted one evidence that serves to reconcile Christianity and transgenderism. Doubtless you've got many in the episcopal church on your wavelength, but they're not on mine.

How is transgenderism right or wrong if it wasn't even heard of before the common era?

Do you know what transgenderism is? (As an illness?)
 

eik

Active Member
Transgenderism, epilepsy, cancer, and hypothyroidism for example aren't in scripture. How do they related to humanism for their lack of being brought up before the common era?
Unnatural urges, by which I mean urges contrary to natural law, are clearly mentioned in Romans 1.

Some illnesses are more biblical than others?
It's not defined as an illness but as a punishment for idoltary. See Romans 1.
 

eik

Active Member
How is transgenderism right or wrong if it wasn't even heard of before the common era?

Do you know what transgenderism is? (As an illness?)
I think I've made the point before that Canaanite religion is full of this kind of thing, as is the worship of Cybele by its transgendered priests, which spead across the world from the east to Rome eventually. This kind of thing is by no means novel, and is what biblical religion, or faith in Christ as the son of God, sought to abolish and did succeed in abolishing, amongst other things, as an incidental benefit, at least throughout Europe. In some aspects what we have in the modern era, with its full-on rejection and belittlement of orthodox forms of Christianity, is a reversion back to the pre-Christian era.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Unnatural urges, by which I mean urges contrary to natural law, are clearly mentioned in Romans 1.


It's not defined as an illness but as a punishment for idoltary. See Romans 1.

Wait. Before I address both your post, what is your definition of transgender?

(Not other peoples')
 

eik

Active Member
You did when you said we hate god and curse our parents, opening ourselves to demonic possession.

And yet he can't even bother to set the myriad of Christian denominations straight on whos correct, with this ocean of denominations occuring because Christians themselves often disagree as to what the Bible means. So they've started so many different denominations and churches that Christianity today bears scant resemblance to how it was when it was first established. Since then it's become heavily politicized, had hefty doses of Paganism injected into its genetic code, and even accepts a man claiming to speak for god who came after Jesus, despite Jesus' warnings against such a person.
A Christian is known by whether he has the Spirit of God, not by the denomination he attends, or the label he identifies with.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
A Christian is known by whether he has the Spirit of God, not by the denomination he attends, or the label he identifies with.
And what right do you have to judge that? None, amd according to the Bible you condemn yourself and you judge because you are guilty of what you judge.(Romans 2:1). You want to judge, you are so certain of yourself, yet you failed to follow Jesus' instructions for doing so. (Matthew 18:15). So I ask, who are you to judge your neighbor? There is one who gives the Law and Judges, amd you are steppinginto his territory. (James 4:13)
 

eik

Active Member
Do you believe a person has a gender?
What does gender mean to you?

(For example, do you know you are a man or a woman without correlation to the body-sex and organs)
I'm not getting into that. The word gender meant only sex, amongst other things, until feminists corrupted the meaning from 1977. See the etymological dictionary. This new meaning became part of pop culture. It is not therefore a serious academic word. I see it as part of a new gnostic religion, an alternative to Christianity. Needless to say, it is a religion I do not adhere to.
 

eik

Active Member
And what right do you have to judge that? None, amd according to the Bible you condemn yourself and you judge because you are guilty of what you judge.(Romans 2:1). You want to judge, you are so certain of yourself, yet you failed to follow Jesus' instructions for doing so. (Matthew 18:15). So I ask, who are you to judge your neighbor? There is one who gives the Law and Judges, amd you are steppinginto his territory. (James 4:13)
My definition of a Christian is found in the bible. It is not my own judgement. Romans 8:9 "And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ." So I am not guilty of anything.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
My definition of a Christian is found in the bible. It is not my own judgement. Romans 8:9 "And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ." So I am not guilty of anything.
You just judged that someone you don't know doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, and have assumed it your right and place to judge. You judge this--according to the Bible--because it is you who lack the spirit of Christ, and it is you who shall have that judged against you.
 
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