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How do you believe the world will end?

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
But what does your religion have to say about how it’s going to end?

"A New Earth" can mean just the same as "a new creation"

There's multiple answers to your question for me. The first and literal question is the world as a planet ending because the Sun expands as it runs out of fuel and consumes the Earth. That's a LONG way off.

Another answer relates to "New Earth" "New Creation" "New Humanity" where the world as we know it ends. Each major religion has a different view about this with different figures according to the religion .

My belief is that God, as the Christ/Avatar, breaks His silence and floods the world with Divine energy transfiguring all that are ready and establishing a New Creation/Earth/Humanity.

That's the end of the old world.
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
The world is going to end one day, that’s for sure. In a few million years it will be consumed by our sun, which is going to expand and engulf the innermost planets of the solar system. And a big asteroid may crash into it, thus snuffing out all but the most basic and hardy life-forms…

But what does your religion have to say about how it’s going to end?

View attachment 40787

As a Christian, this is my understanding:​
  1. Jesus Christ returns to Earth from Heaven​
  2. Jesus Christ raptures the elect, who go up to heaven​
  3. A period of great tribulation occurs on Earth​
  4. Jesus Christ returns to Earth from Heaven (again)​
  5. Jesus Christ rules over Earth for a whole millennium​
  6. Everyone alive on Earth and who were dead before the rapture occurred are judged and given an appropriate after-life​
  7. Planet Earth is discontinued​
That is my understanding of Christian eschatology, and I know that within Christianity there are many different views - which I would be interested to hear - But also from people of other faiths…

(and I believe that stage 1 is imminent)​

My read on it is more spooky than most.

But one of the things I agree with you on is the imminent part.

I think something is going to happen really soon, and may have even started already.

But the Lord has things under control.

Most people, even the Christians I think, will be surprised at what happens next.

There's many reasons why God can't start the Kingdom of God on Earth just yet.

After the land, the Earth vomits out it's inhabitants, like in the days of Noah and in the days of Lot, it will enjoy it's Sabbath rest all the time it remains desolate.

And even if, as you say, Planet Earth is discontinued when it passes away with a loud noise and the elements burn with fervent heat, we look forward to a new heaven and a new undefiled earth in which righteousness will dwell.

That's when the real fun begins.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
The world is going to end one day, that’s for sure. In a few million years it will be consumed by our sun, which is going to expand and engulf the innermost planets of the solar system. And a big asteroid may crash into it, thus snuffing out all but the most basic and hardy life-forms…

But what does your religion have to say about how it’s going to end?

View attachment 40787

As a Christian, this is my understanding:​
  1. Jesus Christ returns to Earth from Heaven​
  2. Jesus Christ raptures the elect, who go up to heaven​
  3. A period of great tribulation occurs on Earth​
  4. Jesus Christ returns to Earth from Heaven (again)​
  5. Jesus Christ rules over Earth for a whole millennium​
  6. Everyone alive on Earth and who were dead before the rapture occurred are judged and given an appropriate after-life​
  7. Planet Earth is discontinued​
That is my understanding of Christian eschatology, and I know that within Christianity there are many different views - which I would be interested to hear - But also from people of other faiths…

(and I believe that stage 1 is imminent)​

Since there is no evidence of any Jesus Christ getting ready to come to earth, I am not sure what your point is.

Ciao
- viole
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
In around 5 billion years the sun will go red giant and render the inner solar system uninhibitable. Whether it pushes the inner planets outward or consumes them is a moot point.

"One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever. - Ecclesiastes 1:4

"The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. - Psalm 37:29

"Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. - Psalm 104:5​

Sorry, no red giants in the future for this old globe.

With God, all things are possible.

We're talking about the Entity who did the big bang.

God can refuel the sun.

This globe will last forever.

Infinity.

The God that can do that, can reach back through time itself, and get my cat back.

Behold, He makes ALL things new again.

Ad infinitum.
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
Since there is no evidence of any Jesus Christ getting ready to come to earth, I am not sure what your point is.

My view is radical, but I think He's here already.

The coming of the Son of Man has begun.

The coming of the Son of Man is a process, a parade of apocalyptic events which will conclude with His arrival.

The heptads have repeated, the time is fulfilled.

The 62 and 7 weeks.

The "darkened sun" of January was the equivalent in time to 27AD when Jesus began the last of the heptads, reading from the Isaiah 61 scroll, declairing the YEAR of the Lord's favor.

One year latter, right on time, January 2020.

And the staged material from el Diablo begins.

We are in Chapter 13.

We are currently experiencing more staged crap from el Diablo, the signs that he is given the power to do with the first beast.

The Diablo Deal.

Is this the man that made the nations tremble?

El Diablo is real.

The signS that he is given the power to do on behalf of, or in the presence of, the composite beast.

He will even cause fire to fall from heaven in the full view of men.

Read em and weep.

Caught up in the Devil's bargain.

Dreadfull sorry Clemantine.


Jesus said to watch, the point was stressed, but you must watch.

There's a rare eclipse, one in 26,000 years, on the equinox this June.

Followed by a blood moon eclipse on the 4th of July.

In the place where God had prepared for to protect the Woman from the flood that was spewing forth from El Diablo's mouth.

At the end of the 1260 years of Revelation 12. The "Earth", the United States, was all ready to help the "Woman".

And the Woman, the Christian church, found an unmolested environment where she could enjoy the religious freedom that would enable her to give birth to a Bible Belt.

In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.

There were four blood moons, and God was opening up a new continent.

We are Here.

Check the date on the video (2017).

I was telling people about the heptads in 2017.



Ciao Mein

- Dave
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
"One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever. - Ecclesiastes 1:4

"The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. - Psalm 37:29

"Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. - Psalm 104:5​

Sorry, no red giants in the future for this old globe.

With God, all things are possible.

We're talking about the Entity who did the big bang.

God can refuel the sun.

This globe will last forever.

Infinity.

The God that can do that, can reach back through time itself, and get my cat back.

Behold, He makes ALL things new again.

Ad infinitum.

if that's what helps you sleep at night
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
if that's what helps you sleep at night

Sleep's not the problem.

Waking up is the problem.

I could sleep through the apocalypse.

I need two alarm clocks, two phones and a programed auto drip coffee maker all going off in a staggered pattern to wake me up.

I'm the flip side of no rest for the wicked.

"There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name."
I don't fear the fowler's arrow that flies in the day, nor the plague that stalks in the night.

No pestilence for my tent.

You will not fear the terror of the night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
nor the pestilence that stalks in darkness,
nor the destruction that wastes at noonday.

A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.
You will only look with your eyes
and see the recompense of the wicked.

Because you have made the Lord your dwelling place—
the Most High, who is my refuge—
no evil shall be allowed to befall you,
no plague will come near your tent. - Psalm 91
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
The world is going to end one day, that’s for sure. In a few million years it will be consumed by our sun, which is going to expand and engulf the innermost planets of the solar system. And a big asteroid may crash into it, thus snuffing out all but the most basic and hardy life-forms…

But what does your religion have to say about how it’s going to end?

View attachment 40787

As a Christian, this is my understanding:​
  1. Jesus Christ returns to Earth from Heaven​
  2. Jesus Christ raptures the elect, who go up to heaven​
  3. A period of great tribulation occurs on Earth​
  4. Jesus Christ returns to Earth from Heaven (again)​
  5. Jesus Christ rules over Earth for a whole millennium​
  6. Everyone alive on Earth and who were dead before the rapture occurred are judged and given an appropriate after-life​
  7. Planet Earth is discontinued​
That is my understanding of Christian eschatology, and I know that within Christianity there are many different views - which I would be interested to hear - But also from people of other faiths…

(and I believe that stage 1 is imminent)​

Depends on what you mean by "end of the world." If you mean the end of human existence, nuclear weapons are the largest threat IMO.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
I agree about feeling like The End Times are near. But I don't think God is going to rescue us. I think God's mostly the problem.

The primitive ethics of the ancient people who invented Abrahamic God plainly don't work in the world as it is today. But the world is dominated by Islamo-Christian culture. People can easily justify ugly behavior by picking the Scripture that supports it, and ignoring moral issues that aren't mentioned in The Bible or Qur'an.

So I expect that, within this century, people will go to war over the dwindling resources. The advanced weaponry used will push the already collapsing biosphere over the edge into destruction. Civilization as we know it will end. Kinda like that asteroid killed off the big dinosaurs, we humans will kill off ourselves and most of the other large vertebrates.

But the earth will keep spinning and life will go on without us.
Tom

I think the human race will survive this century, but likely not the millennium.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
It all depends on whether science finally tells its own self that it does not control any natural force or power or laws in the creative body, and finally believe it.

Otherwise science who forces God mass to alter its held cold radiation fusion moving in space, puts Earth into a future gained heated space by its cycles, and the radiation UFO war he always wanted given back to Earth will once again remove life.

Every movie theme that owns that story telling says the same....and then I quote so I will have to rebuild life and civilization again, as if it is just his common practice or destiny. Always wondered at his male inanity actually.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Does it?
Enough for 9 billion under current circumstances, maybe. But what if all those desperately poor billions of people, who currently live on practically nothing, start demanding and fighting for a more equitable share?
Tom
exactly the point
a large portion of the population are already stressed
with only 7billion in play

take that up a couple of notched.....9billion
and the troubles really set up
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
"One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever. - Ecclesiastes 1:4

"The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. - Psalm 37:29

"Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. - Psalm 104:5​

Sorry, no red giants in the future for this old globe.

With God, all things are possible.

We're talking about the Entity who did the big bang.

God can refuel the sun.

This globe will last forever.

Infinity.

The God that can do that, can reach back through time itself, and get my cat back.

Behold, He makes ALL things new again.

Ad infinitum.
the kingdom is not of this world
the Carpenter said so
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
the kingdom is not of this world
the Carpenter said so
If a scientist who says Earth and core reactions, knowing that he could not infer core unless it existed. For he is not inventor of knowledge, he is aware of information.

An Earth core is a iron metal bond, cold radiation mass in its space.

He builds a metallic machine that he says will copy the condition core.

Without anything else.

So then you would as a conscious thinker say and ask him....so where is the rest of God the Earth as natural stone mass in your machine reactive theories...what you want, but physical material is in your way?

First of all his machine mass is taken from the God stone mass.....his first lie to self about his theory.....God being the stone...instead he talks about God just being his metal machine as an Earth core ball heating in spatial radiation changes.

Hence when he bores huge sink holes in Earth and then actually says in heard male human AI statements, which I heard.....I have not yet learnt how to invent God....is about as ludicrous of him claiming that he invented Pi or Phi....yet he does.

Lying in science is a human aware, self realised status of a natural human, living spiritually versus their self destructive brother, the scientist. Who once was titled a Satanist.

Historically when he gets mutated in mind psyche balances and DNA life....as the atmospheric body cools and gets rid of invading UFO MASS by natural history in the cosmos......as he re develops his psyche he says a whole lot of fake and unrealistic self lived histories involving his life mind and body as a human male.

As self memories...idealised through and realised through a changing atmospheric body. For first he was his most highest self....which he always destroys.

Why the man of the apostasy is his own teachings, which he writes about to warn self....then irradiates self and forgets what it meant and then some other human has to remind him what he actually wrote and why it was a self warning....seeing the scientist always slowly gets destroyed until the Year when he proclaimed self in the future DNA owner would no longer exist.

So he fulfils his own male science prophecies and probabilities for he is supported in the human community to achieve it....always did.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
I still think you are a robot
Might be why you male self built a robot to have sex with, seeing Stephen Hawking said you were trying to replace the FEMALE human life owner/cell human, chemical human....mind attacked by your machine conscious studies of Christ consciousness....with you in full aware male human knowledge of causing it.

Why you keep saying a living human being as a human is a robot and actually believe it when you say it...…...demonstrates what a sick liar you all are.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Urdu poems:

"āgāh apni maut se koi bashar nahin, sāmān sau baras kā hai, pal ki khabar nahin."
(No person knows about his death, we have things to last us a hundred years, but do not know what will happen in the next moment)

"hai āj hawā kā rukh munafāiq to chal nikal, kal ki kise khabar hai kidhar ki hawā chale."
(If the wind is flowing today in the right direction, then go ahead, who knows what way wind will blow tomorrow)

"yeh ek shab ki mulāqāt bhi ghanimat hai, kise hai kal ki khabar, thodi der sāth chalo."
(This meeting for a night also is a boon, who knows about tomorrow, walk with me for sometime)

"na ibtidā ki khabar, na hai intehā māloom, rahā ye vaham ke ham hai voh bhi kyā māloom."
(Don't' know how it began, don't know how it will end, had a belief that I exist but of that too I am not very sure)
 
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Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Let's see what God has to say about people being Raptured (fly) to save their souls?

God said in the book of
Proverbs 10:30 --"The righteous shall never be removed, but the wicked shall not inherit the earth"

So who's the righteous that shall never be removed?

The Lord Jesus Christ said
In the book of Matthew 5:5 --"Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth"

So here we find the Meek shall inherit the earth.

So that means the Righteous Meek shall never be removed from the earth for they shall inherit the earth.
So how does the Rapture fit into what God is saying
In Proverbs 10:30?

Did you also know that God is against those people who teach people they will be
Raptured (fly) to save their souls.

Notice ( Pillows) in
Ezekiel 13:20 according to the Hebrew Translation means (Teachings)

Ezekiel 13:20--"Wherefore thus saith the LORD God, behold, I am against your pillows ( teachings), wherewith you there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms,
and let the souls go, even the souls that you hunt to make them fly"

It's evidence and very clear what God is talking about here..
The Rapture is where people are being taught they will be
Raptured ( fly) to save their souls.

And it's so easy plain to see exactly what God is talking about here in
Ezekiel 13:20. People being taught they will be Raptured (fly) to save their souls.
And God is against those who teach people they will be Raptured (fly)
To save their souls.

Well it seems God just blew the whole Rapture theory right out of the water.
 
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