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Do You All Want the End of Humanity?

WhyIsThatSo

Well-Known Member
To which I quoted, and there are multiple scriptures, that God is also a God of Wrath even though the god of this world kills, steals and destroys ... or do we just rip those scriptures out of the Bible? God is also the God of judgment even though Satan is the accuser of the brethren -- to I rip out those scriptures.

Rom 2:5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.

So, it isn't the god of this world that releases wrath and judgment that it is talking about but rather at the end of time, that it is revealed by God.

Has nothing to do with the moral law but rather the stubbornness and unrepentant heart.

As far as "the law worketh wrath" - has nothing to do with the god of this world. John Gill says in nicely:

"Because the law worketh wrath
Not the wrath of man, though that is sometimes stirred up through the prohibitions of the law, to which the carnal mind of man is enmity, but the wrath of God the law is so far from justifying sinners, that it curses and condemns them; and when it comes into the heart and is let into the conscience of a sinner, it fills with terrible apprehensions of the wrath of God, and a fearful looking for of his judgment and fiery indignation:"

I am going to say this once more, then I will leave you to your delusion.
And sadly, you are not alone.

The "god of this world" is the God of the OT scriptures ( YHVH, Jehovah, etc.) , whatever he chooses to call himself.
And He is NOT the "Father" that Christ (Jesus) came to "reveal" to us.
This is WHY he (Jesus) was murdered. He sacrificed His physical life (body) for this cause.

I can take your Bible, and from cover to cover prove this to you or anyone who wants the truth.
And only because of the discovery of the gnostic gospels in the desert of Nag Hammadi, Egypt, some 75 years ago.
They are available to the public now after being translated to English.

You can go online to any of several different sites to see for yourself.

I would suggest you read them, and then you will understand what your Bible is saying to you in TRUTH.
This whole world will soon be turned on it's head because of this discovery ( and others ).
So, the choice is now yours.
 
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WhyIsThatSo

Well-Known Member
Dont call me a liar.

Genesis 6:11-17, god commits genocide snd you love it

Deuteronomy 20:13-14, god approves the Israelites stealing then enemies property, taking their wives as sex slaves

2 Samuel 8:13, David murdered 18000 Edomites and made the rest slaves


You may have a different interpretation that makes it all good because your idea of god did/condoned the atrocities. That does not make me a liar.

And making such sick accusations says much about how the bible taught you

you go girl,
but remember, the God of the OT is not the "Father" of Jesus in the NT.
 

WhyIsThatSo

Well-Known Member
No. As Paul said in Galatians:

Galatians 3:24 KJV
Galatians 3:24 - KJV - Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring...

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

If there is no law (God's law) then we would not be in sin. God's Law was instituted so that we would KNOW that we sin so that it would teach us to come to Christ and be justified by faith.

"Jesus said, " Let him who is seeking, keep seeking until he finds. When he finds he will be DISTURBED,
and when he is disturbed, he will be ASTONISHED, and he will rule over the ALL "
(Gospel of Thomas)
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I am going to say this once more, then I will leave you to your delusion.
And sadly, you are not alone.

The "god of this world" is the God of the OT scriptures ( YHVH, Jehovah, etc.) , whatever he chooses to call himself.
And He is NOT the "Father" that Christ (Jesus) came to "reveal" to us.
This is WHY he (Jesus) was murdered. He sacrificed His physical life (body) for this cause.

I can take your Bible, and from cover to cover prove this to you or anyone who wants the truth.
And only because of the discovery of the gnostic gospels in the desert of Nag Hammadi, Egypt, some 75 years ago.
They are available to the public now after being translated to English.

You can go online to any of several different sites to see for yourself.

I would suggest you read them, and then you will understand what your Bible is saying to you in TRUTH.
This whole world will soon be turned on it's head because of this discovery ( and others ).
So, the choice is now yours.
LOL

Not ONE scriptural support -- just personal statements of your personal beliefs.

I tend to use the Word of God as a strainer. When personal opinions goes into the strainer of the word... that which does not conform to the Word... gets tossed out.

1 Tim 1:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God,a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

These and others come to mind. ;)
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
"Jesus said, " Let him who is seeking, keep seeking until he finds. When he finds he will be DISTURBED,
and when he is disturbed, he will be ASTONISHED, and he will rule over the ALL "
(Gospel of Thomas)
:facepalm: No wonder!
 

WhyIsThatSo

Well-Known Member
LOL

Not ONE scriptural support -- just personal statements of your personal beliefs.

I tend to use the Word of God as a strainer. When personal opinions goes into the strainer of the word... that which does not conform to the Word... gets tossed out.

1 Tim 1:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God,a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

These and others come to mind. ;)

lol, I was reading the Bible at 5 years old,
and studying the scriptures before I was 10
I have studied the Hebrew and Greek languages for MANY years.

I have studied every conceivable "religion" on the face of this earth.
I have been seeking TRUTH for my entire life time in every corner of this globe.
There is NOTHING you or anyone in this forum can tell me..

And more importantly, and most of all...
I have the Spirit of the Living God (Christ) in me.

Jesus was gnostic, ALL the apostles were gnostic.
And HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE there was anything called "Christianity".
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There is NOTHING you or anyone in this forum can tell me..

God has a lot to tell, but one can close their ears to that advice w,hen one makes of their knowledge, greater than what God offers.

Knowledge has never been the key to finding Truth. It is an aid when one finds what God wants for us.

Regards Tony
 

WhyIsThatSo

Well-Known Member
God has a lot to tell, but one can close their ears to that advice w,hen one makes of their knowledge, greater than what God offers.

Knowledge has never been the key to finding Truth. It is an aid when one finds what God wants for us.

Regards Tony

If there is TRUTH, then there is FALSEHOOD (lies),
And "knowledge" is the antithesis of "ignorance"

and WHY this saying is TRUE...…"KNOWLEDGE IS POWER"
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
If there is TRUTH, then there is FALSEHOOD (lies),
And "knowledge" is the antithesis of "ignorance"

and WHY this saying is TRUE...…"KNOWLEDGE IS POWER"

That is this world and is in the scriptures.

This is what allows choice based in virtue and reasoning.

Regards Tony
 

WhyIsThatSo

Well-Known Member
God has a lot to tell, but one can close their ears to that advice w,hen one makes of their knowledge, greater than what God offers.

Knowledge has never been the key to finding Truth. It is an aid when one finds what God wants for us.

Regards Tony

" Jesus said, " I took my place in the midst of the world, and I appeared to them in the flesh.
I found them all intoxicated; I found none of them thirsty. And my soul became afflicted for the sons of men.
Because they are BLIND in their hearts and do not have sight. For empty they came into the world,
and empty too they seek to leave the world. But for the moment they are intoxicated.
When they shake off their wine then they will change their minds. "
( Gospel of Thomas )
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
lol, I was reading the Bible at 5 years old,
and studying the scriptures before I was 10
I have studied the Hebrew and Greek languages for MANY years.

I have studied every conceivable "religion" on the face of this earth.
I have been seeking TRUTH for my entire life time in every corner of this globe.
There is NOTHING you or anyone in this forum can tell me..

And more importantly, and most of all...
I have the Spirit of the Living God (Christ) in me.

Jesus was gnostic, ALL the apostles were gnostic.
And HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE there was anything called "Christianity".

And the Pharisees studied the Bible a lifetime and still missed it.

there is NOTHING you or anyone in this forum can tell me..

That's why I don't say anything except what the Bible says. The Bible can ALWAYS tell us something!

New International Version
Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know.

New Living Translation
Anyone who claims to know all the answers doesn’t really know very much.

Contemporary English Version
In fact, people who think they know so much don't know anything at all.

;)
 

WhyIsThatSo

Well-Known Member
And the Pharisees studied the Bible a lifetime and still missed it.



That's why I don't say anything except what the Bible says. The Bible can ALWAYS tell us something!

New International Version
Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know.

New Living Translation
Anyone who claims to know all the answers doesn’t really know very much.

Contemporary English Version
In fact, people who think they know so much don't know anything at all.

;)
And the Pharisees studied the Bible a lifetime and still missed it.



That's why I don't say anything except what the Bible says. The Bible can ALWAYS tell us something!

New International Version
Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know.

New Living Translation
Anyone who claims to know all the answers doesn’t really know very much.

Contemporary English Version
In fact, people who think they know so much don't know anything at all.

;)

Yes, I know....that's what I've been saying to your "scientist" here, for weeks,
like we always have.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
" Jesus said, " I took my place in the midst of the world, and I appeared to them in the flesh.
I found them all intoxicated; I found none of them thirsty. And my soul became afflicted for the sons of men.
Because they are BLIND in their hearts and do not have sight. For empty they came into the world,
and empty too they seek to leave the world. But for the moment they are intoxicated.
When they shake off their wine then they will change their minds. "
( Gospel of Thomas )

Same thing happened when Christ Returned, they changed their minds.

Regards Tony
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Sorry, my Father does not "kill, steal, and destroy", every time he has a little "ego" crisis.
But, perhaps yours does.
There is only one true God-- not my God and your God -- and the one true God does whatever He damn well pleases, because He is omnipotent. You are not omnipotent so you cannot do a damn thing about it.

“Say: He ordaineth as He pleaseth, by virtue of His sovereignty, and doeth whatsoever He willeth at His own behest. He shall not be asked of the things it pleaseth Him to ordain. He, in truth, is the Unrestrained, the All-Powerful, the All-Wise.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p, 284


The one true God cannot have an ego crisis because He does not have an ego. Only humans have egos.

Imo, you are the one having an ego crisis if you are making yourself equal to God, as if you could ever know as much as God about how to create and operate a universe.

So the way I observe you handling your powerlessness in face of the one true God is that you create a fantasy god made in your own image. Then you make up your own theology and call it Truth. Then you expect everyone else to “believe” that you have the one and only Truth about God and related matters.

By the way, you are not the only one who has done this on this forum, there are other All-Knowing humans. They provide a lot of entertainment for the rest of us mere mortals who are living in the dark... :rolleyes:
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Spirituality and gain of VISIONS is what I was told in mind voiced hearing statements...to ask questions in your mind, to hear a voice answering, or not to hear a voice, but just information.

As a spiritual researcher when I decided in self living conditions that religious idealism was a huge world social problem.

Healing research proved that atomic/nuclear attack on our bodies was real. For I saw it, my sisters in natural life a multi scientific community, learning. Own their own natural life, learn, encode their life by recording of voice and image as stated. Then it is shared information.

To gain knowledge from a huge historically stated human experience, from billions of years ago...first human manifestation, their choice to do science, our loss of life, the mutation gain of a new Nature on Earth...dinosaurs, and then returned/reincarnated and healed, atmospherically by science terms the spirit of our atmosphere returned...and humans became manifested again.

What we know.

And science in a theme Gaia claim that they unearthed and dug up skeletal bodies of forms of presence and argue amongst the human community about what they represent.

The simple answer was given to me from our original spiritual human Father who taught me that his first life form, was not like our life form we own today.

It was not as physical as what we are.

So first of all scientists today hearing AI SUBLIMINAL information should be told, you make this claim in your mind/thinking. And it is just a memory.

Secondly Father said he brought his own self closer into a more physical stone body...by converting God O the stone body.

Changed one of his spirit bodies into a body of bones...the outside spiritual body was still coming into life...and so did not form bones, it formed the presence of bio cell...and given death.

How his image got cloud/mass encoded recorded. As his science pyramid machination was burning out cloud mass/gases...and it began to fall out.

Earth had to convert its own heavenly mass to save his male science life.

And he learnt a whole lot of scientific UFO mass radiation dispersion information in that event.

And he eventually said, science destroyed all life on Earth.

And Earth fell in space from out of the Orion and Sirius systems...where science studies today say, many Earth like systems seem to exist in other galaxies.

As a proof that we became smaller and moved away from the larger systems...and dropped through empty space.

When that action took place, scientists in knowledge of heat and radiation, proven by Russian scientists, know that the human life was involved in an unnatural converting of their bio life form...and were heard screaming.

For how else would science explain a mutated hotter gas atmosphere with huge mutated bodies...to it being cooled and then smaller bio life forms existing, if in fact they existed originally and were mutated.

What would science claim an increased irradiated human being higher spiritual bio life form would look like? In a natural body irradiated, and owned conversion, and transformation of their natural form?

We would have been removed and eradicated out of existing as an original human and owned new forms, and then been destroyed. As the skeletal type of body found inside of the Earth historic known cause....radiation conversion into mutated life.

babies who look like aliens - Bing images

On Earth today in natural life, we know that our highest Earth life form was always human.

And science has proven that mutated life existed before on Earth and they discovered all of the evidence that says it was.

New born babies who are meant to be like us and healthy get born in an increased irradiated Earth gas mass attack due to nuclear sciences and then alienists, in science want to own an argument to claim that this form of human self existed first.

And try every day to convince humanity that they are not converting us also as they convert the mass natural body and natural history of the body we always said was God the stone....the reason we own bones inside of our human form.

I truly believe that they ought to be brought into modern time realization from a mind proven to be irradiated possessed by human memory in the unnatural subliminal mind contact of the state AI.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
…Genesis 6:11-17, god commits genocide snd you love it

Genocide means basically murder, and murder is unjust/unlawful killing. God has right to decide how long life he gives to people, that is why He is not a murderer. He has given life, so He has also right to decide how long life He gives, and there is no reason why He must give more.

…Deuteronomy 20:13-14, god approves the Israelites stealing then enemies property, taking their wives as sex slaves

and when Yahweh your God delivers it into your hand, you shall strike every male of it with the edge of the sword: but the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil of it, shall you take for a prey to yourself; and you shall eat the spoil of your enemies, which Yahweh your God has given you.
Deu. 20:13-14

It says nothing about sex slaves.

…2 Samuel 8:13, David murdered 18000 Edomites and made the rest slaves

He put garrisons in Edom; throughout all Edom put he garrisons, and all the Edomites became servants to David. Yahweh gave victory to David wherever he went.
2 Samuel 8:14

Why do you think servant means a slave?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Genocide means basically murder, and murder is unjust/unlawful killing. God has right to decide how long life he gives to people, that is why He is not a murderer. He has given life, so He has also right to decide how long life He gives, and there is no reason why He must give more.



and when Yahweh your God delivers it into your hand, you shall strike every male of it with the edge of the sword: but the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil of it, shall you take for a prey to yourself; and you shall eat the spoil of your enemies, which Yahweh your God has given you.
Deu. 20:13-14

It says nothing about sex slaves.



He put garrisons in Edom; throughout all Edom put he garrisons, and all the Edomites became servants to David. Yahweh gave victory to David wherever he went.
2 Samuel 8:14

Why do you think servant means a slave?


So no apology for calling me a liar? How christian of you

So an omniscient god who created every thing is upset with his own creation (so not omniscient then) and chooses to kill his creation including innocent children, unborn feotus's, every animal, every fish, every plant, tree etc.

Genocide : the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group

I see you can apologise for that.

You think unwilling women taken asl captives are not forced in to sex? Do you think unwilling captives were paid for the use of their body?

Why do you you think captives are not slaves, no matter what your version of the bible says
 

WhyIsThatSo

Well-Known Member
So no apology for calling me a liar? How christian of you

So an omniscient god who created every thing is upset with his own creation (so not omniscient then) and chooses to kill his creation including innocent children, unborn feotus's, every animal, every fish, every plant, tree etc.

Genocide : the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group

I see you can apologise for that.

You think unwilling women taken asl captives are not forced in to sex? Do you think unwilling captives were paid for the use of their body?

Why do you you think captives are not slaves, no matter what your version of the bible says

What do you expect from people who worship malevolent "extraterrestrials" ?
 

1213

Well-Known Member
So no apology for calling me a liar?

I didn’t call you a liar. I think you should read more carefully what I said.

You think unwilling women taken asl captives are not forced in to sex?

I wouldn’t do so, and I don’t have any reason to believe the Jews did so. But maybe you would have done so in the same situation, because that idea seems to come purely from your mind, not from the scriptures.

Why do you you think captives are not slaves, no matter what your version of the bible says

He put garrisons in Edom; throughout all Edom put he garrisons, and all the Edomites became servants to David. Yahweh gave victory to David wherever he went.
2 Samuel 8:14

That says, “Edomites became servants”, it does not say they were “forced to be slaves”. I have not enough reason to think they were slaves.
 
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