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Is there any evidence?
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Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Perhaps you yourself are the new Messiah???
You never know...
I know i am not
I've made up so many parables in our conversations that I found enlightening (Ezekiel 20:49); I'm really not sure what you're asking for as a qualifying factor?
Like let's get some things straight first, David prophesied he would come as Yeshua, be murdered by his own people as a sacrifice, which would catch out the hypocrites (Isaiah 8:11-22), and then the scriptures relay the Messiah will return again before Judgement Day, to announce the refreshing (Isaiah 28)...
What do you think the Messiah is meant to do, as clearly you've got a very different perspective to what the Bible, Quran, Zoroastrian, Hindu texts predicted must happen?
It is always like I've got to convince you to believe in me, which is the complete opposite; those who believe in a man, and not the Source of reality, are to be removed at Judgement Day as idolators.
Christianity (John, Paul, and Simon) is an elaborate lie, purposely put there to test the whole of humanity; therefore expecting me to be its Messiah is silly, I'm here to try to show where the hypocrites are.
The idea I've known the data since 5-6 years old about the "I Am" statements being the corruption, is because I'm a member of the Divine Council - this can be easily shown by the name references.
Surely there is someone smart enough theologically on here to understand these basics:
In Revelation 19:12 the Lamb has a new name, that only he knows, when we correlate all these references it is self explanatory:
In Revelation 3:12 it tells us Christ's new name is a cross referencing of different names, and therefore must be applicable to all references provided:
Revelation 3:12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar (Sandalphon) in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God (Zion - Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12, Isaiah 52:7), the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name (Sananda).
In Revelation the Lambs is plural diminutive, which is a flock; thus in Hebrew that is Zan... Zan and Zion (ציון ▬ צאן) are placeholders for our people, and the new name of the Messiah.
Now with the reference 'name of my God', we find my name in many religions as the name of the Creator; which is why I'm explaining quantum physics, biology, as an advanced religious system for the whole planet, and you're asking where is the wisdom?
- Sandalphon (Judaism).
- Yeshua (Sananda) (New Name of Christ).
- Kalki/Skanda/Sanandana (Hinduism).
- Ahura Mazda + Saoshyant (Zand = Exegesis) (Zoroastrianism).
- Maitreya (Ananda) (Buddhism).
- Odin = Wōdanaz. (Norse).
- Zeus = Zan (Greek).
- Your Elohim Zion + Zan (Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12, Isaiah 52:7 + Deuteronomy 16:2).
- etc.
Maximus
the Confessor
Not sure but we do have the anti-Christ in the White House so...
Trump isn't Anti-christ, he is just wanting a Train-set, as his dad was too busy; we need to get him the unconditional love he needs, not chastise him for wanting the attention.
In my opinion.
Maximus
the Confessor
Trump isn't Anti-christ, he is just wanting a Train-set, as his dad was too busy; we need to get him the unconditional love he needs, not chastise him for wanting the attention.
In my opinion.
His extreme narcissism goes way beyond just wanting attention.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
The problem does not lay in understanding you, The problem for me is what you always go back to is the old teaching from bible, Quran and so on, Those texts are real teaching from the masters who created that teaching, no doubt about that. But if you are a new messiah you would come with the new teaching of this millennia, and not use teaching meant for people 2000 to 1000 years ago. You would have been sent to give a new teaching that could save humanity today. But that has not happened through you, so this is why i don't believe in the messiah of now. (in your personality) Only enlighten masters who have enlightened and understand truth from a higher wisdom would be able to be a messiah (in my understanding)I've made up so many parables in our conversations that I found enlightening (Ezekiel 20:49); I'm really not sure what you're asking for as a qualifying factor?
Like let's get some things straight first, David prophesied he would come as Yeshua, be murdered by his own people as a sacrifice, which would catch out the hypocrites (Isaiah 8:11-22), and then the scriptures relay the Messiah will return again before Judgement Day, to announce the refreshing (Isaiah 28)...
What do you think the Messiah is meant to do, as clearly you've got a very different perspective to what the Bible, Quran, Zoroastrian, Hindu texts predicted must happen?
It is always like I've got to convince you to believe in me, which is the complete opposite; those who believe in a man, and not the Source of reality, are to be removed at Judgement Day as idolators.
Christianity (John, Paul, and Simon) is an elaborate lie, purposely put there to test the whole of humanity; therefore expecting me to be its Messiah is silly, I'm here to try to show where the hypocrites are.
The idea I've known the data since 5-6 years old about the "I Am" statements being the corruption, is because I'm a member of the Divine Council - this can be easily shown by the name references.
Surely there is someone smart enough theologically on here to understand these basics:
In Revelation 19:12 the Lamb has a new name, that only he knows, when we correlate all these references it is self explanatory:
In Revelation 3:12 it tells us Christ's new name is a cross referencing of different names, and therefore must be applicable to all references provided:
Revelation 3:12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar (Sandalphon) in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God (Zion - Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12, Isaiah 52:7), the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name (Sananda).
In Revelation the Lambs is plural diminutive, which is a flock; thus in Hebrew that is Zan... Zan and Zion (ציון ▬ צאן) are placeholders for our people, and the new name of the Messiah.
Now with the reference 'name of my God', we find my name in many religions as the name of the Creator; which is why I'm explaining quantum physics, biology, as an advanced religious system for the whole planet, and you're asking where is the wisdom?
In my opinion.
- Sandalphon (Judaism).
- Yeshua (Sananda) (New Name of Christ).
- Kalki/Skanda/Sanandana (Hinduism).
- Ahura Mazda + Saoshyant (Zand = Exegesis) (Zoroastrianism).
- Maitreya (Ananda) (Buddhism).
- Odin = Wōdanaz. (Norse).
- Zeus = Zan (Greek).
- Your Elohim Zion + Zan (Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12, Isaiah 52:7 + Deuteronomy 16:2).
- etc.
Only someone smart enough to understand the basics, would understand the higher wisdom.
I'm not going backwards; I'm explaining the problems, fixing the errors, and then creating a new universal understanding.
The idea people reject this, means that Judgement Day will happen as prophesied by fire, rather than the word becoming a fire.
I'd rather educate humanity; yet need people to take prophecy seriously, else the Source of reality plans on just deleting them all anyway.
In my opinion.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I can only wish you luck with that. But i am not onboard on that path.Only someone smart enough to understand the basics, would understand the higher wisdom.
I'm not going backwards; I'm explaining the problems, fixing the errors, and then creating a new universal understanding.
The idea people reject this, means that Judgement Day will happen as prophesied by fire, rather than the word becoming a fire.
I'd rather educate humanity; yet need people to take prophecy seriously, else the Source of reality plans on just deleting them all anyway.
In my opinion.
leov
Well-Known Member
Messiah comes to a human when that human becoming able to recognize messiah within self.
Anyone can claim to be the Messiah. Some are fakers. Some truly believe that they are when they are not because of experiences they have. And anyone can say anything.
If we look at the founders of the great religions, we see that the legends at least a very different because the times were very different.
Those figures are not recognized in their own times except by very few, relatively speaking, who have the blessing of being able to feel such a figure's presence.
And such a figure is not bound by any set of right and wrong except one: that every action is motivated wholly and solely by love.
And such a one has the wisdom to know the past, present and future and to act on that often hidden wisdom.
A great illustration of this is the story of Moses and Khizr in the Quran. The gist of the story is that Moses was traveling with Khizr who is omniscient. Khizr does what appears to be evil and which Moses can't understand. In the end, Khizr explains what he knew and Moses did not about what was going on and why certain actions were necessary.
So my understanding is that "magic tricks", even raising the dead is not necessarily proof. Speaking supremely learned words is not proof. The testimony of others is not proof.
The only proof I know is an internal proof for those who are ready. The very being of such a one will invoke in us an essence which is in and of itself the same essence of the Messiah and which the conscious mind will over time come to recognize.
The ending text in one of my all time favorite movies, They Might Be Giants, has a wonderful (at least to me) sentence: "The human heart can see what's hidden to the eyes, and the heart knows things that the mind does not begin to understand."
If we look at the founders of the great religions, we see that the legends at least a very different because the times were very different.
Those figures are not recognized in their own times except by very few, relatively speaking, who have the blessing of being able to feel such a figure's presence.
And such a figure is not bound by any set of right and wrong except one: that every action is motivated wholly and solely by love.
And such a one has the wisdom to know the past, present and future and to act on that often hidden wisdom.
A great illustration of this is the story of Moses and Khizr in the Quran. The gist of the story is that Moses was traveling with Khizr who is omniscient. Khizr does what appears to be evil and which Moses can't understand. In the end, Khizr explains what he knew and Moses did not about what was going on and why certain actions were necessary.
So my understanding is that "magic tricks", even raising the dead is not necessarily proof. Speaking supremely learned words is not proof. The testimony of others is not proof.
The only proof I know is an internal proof for those who are ready. The very being of such a one will invoke in us an essence which is in and of itself the same essence of the Messiah and which the conscious mind will over time come to recognize.
The ending text in one of my all time favorite movies, They Might Be Giants, has a wonderful (at least to me) sentence: "The human heart can see what's hidden to the eyes, and the heart knows things that the mind does not begin to understand."
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Perhaps you yourself are the new Messiah?? ..
You may be called upon.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
The only way (in my understanding) that i would become something similar to a messiah would be if i one day realize enlightenment from within
What is prophesied is WW3 will happen, the sun in Orion will explode, reality will be cleansed in a day; I don't need luck, the Source of reality sent me to inform humanity it is about to happen, as stated in Messianic prophecy (Luke 17:20-37).
I wish you luck choosing not to accept it, and wish you the best on your own path, separate to many of the world's religions.
In my opinion.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I already knew about the downfall of humanity before I met you here on RF @wizandaWhat is prophesied is WW3 will happen, the sun will explode, reality will be removed in a day, and then reset; I don't need luck, the Source of reality sent me to inform humanity it is about to happen, as stated in Messianic prophecy.
I wish you luck choosing not to accept it, and wish you the best on your own path, separate to many of the world's religions.
In my opinion.
And yes there will be a WW3 and there will be a lot of suffering for humanity in the future. So on that we agree. I guess those who follow Abrahamic or messianic faith could listen to some of your words. But what you speak of is in general only for Abrahamic followers
Dharmic & Zoroastrian texts have prophecy about the Abrahamic Snare on mankind, it is all one reality, with one Source making it all, and those who don't study all of it, think it is divided, which proves they weren't bothered about spirituality in the first place.
Yeshua was the battle of Kali & Shiva Vs Raktabīja (Blood Thirsty demons), with the demons being caught out in a time of ungodliness (Kali Yuga); the end of Kali Yuga is by Skanda/Kalki bringing the Fire of Mahapralaya.
The same is in the Bible & Zoroastrian texts, there is a time of ungodliness (Zechariah 5) to catch out the ravenous beings (Isaiah 34), who don't actually listen to the Dharma properly, then remove them with Holy Fire from reality in a day.
It is already prophesied people will not listen to the Dharma any more in these times, since we're down near Hell before Judgement Day; most of the religions have been set up to fail, thus I do not need to convince demons down near Hell to be Dharmic, I'm just here assessing where, and why people are illogical.
In my opinion.
PruePhillip
Well-Known Member
Depends what type of "evidence" you are looking for.
Depends on whether you want "evidence" for Jesus
or "evidence" for the Messiah.
Messiah wasn't just in the bible 2,000 years ago. The
Messiah was in the Old Testament 4,000 years ago.
And He was believed to come as Redeemer, to pay
for the sins of the people - but the people would not
believe upon him and they would lose their nation.
PruePhillip
Well-Known Member
The Messiah is a specific character presented by the Bible, who has to fulfil specific criteria; these need to be established to prove the Messiah.
Being a spiritual teacher is not the Messiah; it is a specific anointed King, who has to lead the whole world into religious peace.
Personally I've looked at many people's religious teachings, and if I met anyone as advanced in wisdom; I'd study the details.
In my opinion.
The term "Messiah" in the bible refers to TWO PEOPLE. One is the Messiah
who would come as REDEEMER, ie pay the price for the people's sins.
The second is KING of the Jews.
The Jews of Israel did not want a Redeemer but the king. They felt they had
no sin. But Zechariah shows that their king, when He comes, is the same
lowly man they crucified thousands of years earlier.
WhyIsThatSo
Well-Known Member
Here is our book Poetic Reflectionz... yet that is only a start to some of our understanding of wisdom.
The recalculation of Yoga with the Chakras is more advanced than anything anyone has put forward, it basically teaches us how to regulate our body properly, in modern explanations of biology.
The quantification of Jacob's Ladder as being the 10 Commandments, as Dimensional Quantum Physics proves me as an archangel, with advanced knowledge of our reality.
Here is how human psychology works, how the rules of reasoning can be shown as advanced mathematics, how the forms of intelligence can be dissected to make a much better education system, etc.
I've been trying to fix the world's religions by learning to explain their errors in comprehension clearly, and not really dealing with proving me until recently; when I've realized it is a waste of time explaining, when no one is really listening properly.
Here is the wisdom missing:
Buddha is an avatar of Vishnu come to correct Hinduism back to the Dharma, as they became corrupted by Self Realization, where it is about "I Am" consciousness; where they believe they are god incarnate, and that they believe the Source of reality has a self, and therefore an "I Am" consciousness.
Yeshua came to correct Judaism back to the Source who is selfless, and that we are to remove self idolatry; so Pharisaic Judaism purposely corrupted his teachings as prophesied, to make it all about following "I Am" consciousness.
Both tried to lead back to there being One Source of reality i.e 0neness.
The problem with not fixing the religious dilemma, and sharing wisdom is that the basic matters become so corrupted, people end up facing opposite - this needs addressing first, to remove hypocrisy from people down near Hell, before giving out wisdom.
Like imagine if everyone understood the contradictions in the Bible (John, Paul, and Simon); it would lead to a world realizing they are corruptible at a fundamental level, that hypocrisy can be right in front of us, and we can miss it...
Then people will start questioning we can be morally evil to begin; then we can build a true understanding within recognizing the contradictions, and in that people can become wise from the comprehension.
On the other hand if people do not understand the contradictions, they are just a blatant hypocritical lawbreaker; who doesn't actually care what Yeshua or Buddha was speaking about, they just want someone to follow, and that means no one is really following them, it is just a cult mentality.
This is why Moses established the Curse (Deuteronomy 28), as he knew they'd not listen to the actual text (Deuteronomy 31:24-29); people just make up cults around the religion, and forget the message.
In my opinion.
You are mistaken....."hate" is not the opposite of "love".
rational experiences
Veteran Member
Betelgeuse
Given a status by male scientists as 10.
Science owning no condition natural in human life....and the human self natural is the inventor of science. And it is about time he accepted that review of self.
Science does not speak by its own volition, nor does it exist not practiced to be quantified as natural...when a natural life, human is applying it by choice, and not reason.
For since when should science be making quotes about bodies sitting in deep cold empty space that owns a relationship with those natural bodies existing in the forms that they own....the exact same equal spatial condition that owns diversity of the bodies?
Any human making some other claim would be a proven liar, and to be self human life sacrificed is the gained proof...after the fact and too late teaching lesson to self life.
Betelgeuse in fiction - Wikipedia
[ˈbiːt(ə)lˌdʒəːz]
DEFINITION
Given a status by male scientists as 10.
Science owning no condition natural in human life....and the human self natural is the inventor of science. And it is about time he accepted that review of self.
Science does not speak by its own volition, nor does it exist not practiced to be quantified as natural...when a natural life, human is applying it by choice, and not reason.
For since when should science be making quotes about bodies sitting in deep cold empty space that owns a relationship with those natural bodies existing in the forms that they own....the exact same equal spatial condition that owns diversity of the bodies?
Any human making some other claim would be a proven liar, and to be self human life sacrificed is the gained proof...after the fact and too late teaching lesson to self life.
Betelgeuse in fiction - Wikipedia
[ˈbiːt(ə)lˌdʒəːz]
DEFINITION
- the tenth-brightest star in the sky, in the constellation Orion. It is a red supergiant, and variations in its brightness are associated with pulsations in its RE: Leigh and Betelgeuse and the Wrath of God outer envelope.