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Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Getting calculations of a theoretical issue is nothing more than getting the calculation right according to the theory.Getting the calculations correct from a general theory *is* getting the 'cosmological facts'. There is nothing else required.
We were discussing the Thermodynamics of a cosmic cloud and not this for the moment. You´re just changing subject in order to avoid the nasty questions.I'll tell you what. Get the calculations based on E&M to come out even close to correct and you have a discussion. The laws for E&M are well known (Maxwell's equations and the Lorentz force law). Give *any* model that predicts
1. The basic elliptical orbits of planets and comets
2. The deviations from those orbits that are currently explained by gravitational interactions between the planets.
If you can get *anything* that works remotely close, you have at least the beginnings of an argument. Otherwise, frankly, you don't.
According to the laws of Thermodynamics a gaseous cloud cannot do work on itself, no matter where it is located.There is no such thing as 'above the gravity influence of the Earth' unless it is so far away only its internal gravity is relevant.
Give me a brake, will you? The assumed heavy gravity from the Earth cannot even pull the lightest gaseous matters to the ground. Thermodynamical temperature is even stronger than your gravity.
Oh, so you are speaking of atmospheric pressures and thermodynamic distributions of wheather systems And of course you again forgot the EM influence in weather systems which creates strong EM ligthningsOn the other hand, thermodynamics in a gravitational field is regularly done and used to understand the distribution of gases in the atmosphere.
Your arguments here STILL goes against the laws of thermodynamics where gases cannot do work on itself and collapse - no matter the size of gaseous clouds. This was what the entire video content was all about.No, he is using the equations for gravity that only apply for a uniform sphere. Second, he is misusing thermo in this context. For small amount of gas (like what you get in a lab), the self-gravity is minimal. For large clouds of gas, light years across, it is a major aspect of the dynamics.
Congratulations then! You/modern science have succeded to ignore the laws of thermodynamics where gases cannot make work on itself and collapse to anything and furthermore succeded to invent a gravitational force which precisely does the same dynamic work on gas and matter as electromagnetism in a circuit of formationWell, it is the gravitational equations and the thermodynamic equations that are used to give the correct motion. That makes it a gravitational thing.
Beware! You´re on your way to find the TOE or at least a GUT if you keep on doing such unconscious things