Defending religious liberty with violence

[Cooky]

If some regime tried to seriously limit your religious liberty would you use violence against them? And by violence, I mean targeted lethal violence.

I would, as a matter of principle, even if it probably wouldn’t achieve much.

I think it’s a God-given right to defend with violence the freedom you have to practice your faith.

And by seriously limiting religious liberty I don’t mean (for example) not allowing Niqab to be worn in public or not allowing crucifixes to be displayed in the workplace, I mean more fundamental things, such as being forbidden to assemble, associate, worship and believe.

I’m talking about practicing resistance against genuine oppression, not secularism.

What do people think?

I say yes, I would.

I don't think this imaginary scenario is a good mental exercise to contemplate on.

 

[Audie]

Better yet...
Let the oppressors die before submitting to the religion of peace.

Gen Geo Patton said it best....

Spoiler: Foul language might give genteel folk the vapors. But this quote is part of our history. It should be known.

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other ba$tard die for his.

44 kg of fightin' chinkette uber islam!

 

[Audie]

It's been proven through out history that violence is never the fix.

Nonsense

 

[Revoltingest]

44 kg of fightin' chinkette uber islam!

To arms, all !!!
Let no oppressive jihadi's kneecap go unbloodied !!!

 

[Cooky]

I know, let's all get drunk first and then talk about this!

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

If some regime tried to seriously limit your religious liberty would you use violence against them? And by violence, I mean targeted lethal violence.

I would, as a matter of principle, even if it probably wouldn’t achieve much.

I think it’s a God-given right to defend with violence the freedom you have to practice your faith.

And by seriously limiting religious liberty I don’t mean (for example) not allowing Niqab to be worn in public or not allowing crucifixes to be displayed in the workplace, I mean more fundamental things, such as being forbidden to assemble, associate, worship and believe.

I’m talking about practicing resistance against genuine oppression, not secularism.

What do people think?

I say yes, I would.

"Put your sword back in it's place", Jesus said to him, " For all who draw the sword will die by the sword " ( Mathew 26:52 )

" But when you pray, enter into your inner room ( NO CHURCH ), shut your door, and pray to your Father who is unseen. And your
Father. who sees what is done IN SECRET will reward you " ( Mathew 6:6 )

 

[Rival]

I know, let's all get drunk first and then talk about this!

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I didn't know anyone posts on RF sober.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

I didn't know anyone posts on RF sober.

"If you confuse yourselves, you will be confused. If you blind yourselves, you will be blinded.
You are drunk, but not from wine. You stagger, but not from liquor " ( Isaiah 29:9 )

 

[McBell]

I didn't know anyone posts on RF sober.

wait...
We are allowed to post when sober?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If some regime tried to seriously limit your religious liberty would you use violence against them? And by violence, I mean targeted lethal violence.

I would, as a matter of principle, even if it probably wouldn’t achieve much.

I think it’s a God-given right to defend with violence the freedom you have to practice your faith.

And by seriously limiting religious liberty I don’t mean (for example) not allowing Niqab to be worn in public or not allowing crucifixes to be displayed in the workplace, I mean more fundamental things, such as being forbidden to assemble, associate, worship and believe.

I’m talking about practicing resistance against genuine oppression, not secularism.

What do people think?

I say yes, I would.

Yes.

 

[Rival]

"If you confuse yourselves, you will be confused. If you blind yourselves, you will be blinded.
You are drunk, but not from wine. You stagger, but not from liquor " ( Isaiah 29:9 )

I guess jokes are beyond you, eh?

 

[Audie]

"Put your sword back in it's place", Jesus said to him, " For all who draw the sword will die by the sword " ( Mathew 26:52 )

" But when you pray, enter into your inner room ( NO CHURCH ), shut your door, and pray to your Father who is unseen. And your
Father. who sees what is done IN SECRET will reward you " ( Mathew 6:6 )

So because one might die fighting for what you believe,
you must do nothing?

In the event, the context of the supposed jesus-saying is
that if you take up arms against the Roman Empire, you
will be killed.

 

[McBell]

"If you confuse yourselves, you will be confused. If you blind yourselves, you will be blinded.
You are drunk, but not from wine. You stagger, but not from liquor " ( Isaiah 29:9 )

I was hungry, then I ate a Snickers bar, then I was no longer hunger.

 

[Audie]

I guess jokes are beyond you, eh?

Try again.
Eat not, lest thou be eaten
Go not, lest thou be gone
Drink not lest thou be drunk
Sow not lest thou be sown
And, think not lest thou be thunk.

 

[McBell]

Sow not lest thou be sown

Miss Piggy would be pleased...

 

[Audie]

Miss Piggy would be pleased...

I can think of way better advice than what the bible has to offer

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

So because one might die fighting for what you believe,
you must do nothing?

In the event, the context of the supposed jesus-saying is
that if you take up arms against the Roman Empire, you
will be killed.

I guess jokes are beyond you, eh?

" I started a joke, which started the whole world crying....
But I didn't see that the joke was on me..."

 

[McBell]

I can think of way better advice than what the bible has to offer

I can think of way worse advice than what the bible has to offer

 

[Rival]

" I started a joke, which started the whole world crying....
But I didn't see that the joke was on me..."

Are you trying to make people put you on ignore, or something? Chill.

 

[McBell]

Are you trying to make people put you on ignore, or something? Chill.

To whom doth thou speaketh?