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Red Faced, Trump Backs Out Of Using Doral Resort As Host Of G7 summit

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
So basically the american people dont have a right to know about bidens potential wrongs.
I thought DoJ or State Dept is doing right now. It's not good enough that the proper institutions are doing it, but rather we can only know the truth if the president plays detective? He needs to learn to delegate to avoid conflict of interest.

And its wrong to investigate potential wrongs.
Which means impeachment inquiry is the rightful thing to do as well. We have the right to know if there's a potential wrong done by Trump too.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Ya......of course.



So basically the american people dont have a right to know about bidens potential wrongs.

And its wrong to investigate potential wrongs.

Gotcha.

Thats foolishness.
It's the law, so your gripe is with those who made the law.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Theres just one problem with your statement.

The FACTS are trump did NOT pressure ukraine and he did not use aid as leverage. Its not in the call.

Ukraine admitted no push or blackmail. Thats A FACT.


Either you are just a blind Sheeple or you are terribly naive.



ETA: Both.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
I wonder why so many Sheeples write like they've been badly homeschooled.

I guess if they never learned contractions, it's understandable that they have a hard time understanding the intricacies of politics.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Currently, many Sheeples are saying it's OK for a foreign power or a foreign national to investigate American politicians and provide damning evidence. I wonder how the Sheeples would feel if Russia or a Russian citizen releases the pee tape.
 

Prometheus85

Active Member
What do you mean watch the news sometime?

Come on man, say something worth its substance.

Zelinsky said he was not pushed or blackmailed. Thats not hearsay. He actually said that.

I as told u before, Zelensky saying trump didn’t pressure or blackmail him was purely a diplomatic response. When the partial transcripts were released (plus, don't forget that the transcript is not verbatim and was likely edited to make Trump look better) Zelensky Received a lot of flak from the Ukrainian people for sucking up to trump (trump isn’t really liked in Ukraine or Western European country for that matter). So he tried to protect his reputation by saying he wasn’t pressured by trump and that he doesn’t want to get involved in US politics. Mind you Ukraine was also is desperate need for US military aid to go up against Russian aggression, if Zelensky would’ve said that there was pressure! that would’ve instantly sour relations with Trump as well as damage Zelensky reputation in Ukraine. Anybody with half a brain (so not Trump's electorate) will easily see the implied pressure in the general power asymmetry between the two countries and specifically in the withholding of aid, anyway.
 

Prometheus85

Active Member
Ya......of course.



So basically the american people dont have a right to know about bidens potential wrongs.

And its wrong to investigate potential wrongs.

Gotcha.

Thats foolishness.

I see your still regurgitating this ridiculous argument that’s been debunked a million times already. No matter how many times you repeat it, it’s not going to be true.
 
I as told u before, Zelensky saying trump didn’t pressure or blackmail him was purely a diplomatic response. When the partial transcripts were released (plus, don't forget that the transcript is not verbatim and was likely edited to make Trump look better) Zelensky Received a lot of flak from the Ukrainian people for sucking up to trump (trump isn’t really liked in Ukraine or Western European country for that matter). So he tried to protect his reputation by saying he wasn’t pressured by trump and that he doesn’t want to get involved in US politics. Mind you Ukraine was also is desperate need for US military aid to go up against Russian aggression, if Zelensky would’ve said that there was pressure! that would’ve instantly sour relations with Trump as well as damage Zelensky reputation in Ukraine. Anybody with half a brain (so not Trump's electorate) will easily see the implied pressure in the general power asymmetry between the two countries and specifically in the withholding of aid, anyway.

Hold on.....how would zelenski's reputation be destroyed with the ukraine people by him saying trump pressured him?
 
I see your still regurgitating this ridiculous argument that’s been debunked a million times already. No matter how many times you repeat it, it’s not going to be true.

No matter how many times you and all the rest of the lefties deny it, its not going to be false.
 
No need. Quite a few of us quoted and linked the law for you.

Why do you think conservatives that worked in the Whitehouse were so upset?

You leftists never build on the conversation.

All you all do is assert your views, then when there countered, you re assert instead of countering the counter.

Also when questions are asked, you dont answer them. If you do, its not answering the actual question, but some other nutty thing you think.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Curious, if a conservative can have a fully functioning brain then are you saying conservatism is smart? If yez, what parts are smart in specific?

Do tell, lefty.
Some conservatives are intelligent. They can see when the laws are being broken.

By the way, some conservatives are for a national healthcare system. They can see that the massive insurance bureaucracy is a dinosaur. It contributes little and cost quite a bit of money.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You leftists never build on the conversation.

All you all do is assert your views, then when there countered, you re assert instead of countering the counter.

Also when questions are asked, you dont answer them. If you do, its not answering the actual question, but some other nutty thing you think.
Please, I am a fiscal conservative. Your questions were answered. You denied the answer. You could not refute the facts given to you. Denial is not adding to the conversation.
 
I thought DoJ or State Dept is doing right now. It's not good enough that the proper institutions are doing it, but rather we can only know the truth if the president plays detective? He needs to learn to delegate to avoid conflict of interest.

Ya, the proper institutions doing it is good. Trump didnt do wrong.

Which means impeachment inquiry is the rightful thing to do as well. We have the right to know if there's a potential wrong done by Trump too.

Ya, we have a right to know. We also have a right to know why the constant witch hunt too.
 
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