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What if God lost the love for humanity?

LightofTruth

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Why should God love humanity when humanity is the very definition of irony ?

People preach God and teachings yet the world still doesn't care about Gods work .
The last enemy to be destroyed is death. Therefore, when death is destroyed there will be no mortal man left. All will either be in the grave to stay, or will have been made immortal. That's when Jesus' work will be accomplished. After his 1,000 year reign.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
What about before evolution?
Do you believe some process created the Universe such as the Big bang ?
What before that ?
Does is hurt to call this process God ?
See we can believe in God without the mythology.
What created god, and please don't say it was always there, NOT CREDIBLE.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I have right to have my say just as you do, especially as extreme Christianity spoilt my childhood.
Yes, you can say your opinion, but holding on to your past so much that it still destroy your day is not healthy. And even you experienced bad things by people who claim to be Christians does not mean Christianity is evil, People can be evil. And unfortunately, they take advantage of others. But they do not represent the majority in Christianity or other religions
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
I believe that a lot of our problems stem from our insistence and expectation that something larger than ourselves (e.g. "God" or "The Universe") be concerned enough to provide us a "purpose."

Anyone who wants to talk ego... that right there is Ego 101. And as always, when you expect more than you're bound to get, you're almost always going to be disappointed.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
Why should God love humanity when humanity is the very definition of irony ?

People preach God and teachings yet the world still doesn't care about Gods work .
Actually to say that God loves humanity is an imperfect truth. To begin with it is an anthropomorphism of the concept of deity which began as the opposite, a separation of the concept deity from its human trappings. You're harking back in time to when God had aspects and faces -- as are many preachers, today. If God ever loved humanity in a human sense then a lot of things would be different. Bad things wouldn't happen to people for example. If God were like us then, of course you could talk about the possibility of God no longer loving humanity; but that is a different version of God. That is the version which takes sides, one person against another. The 'God' with capital G does not do that and is not human. That is how it has been for many centuries, although apparently its been forgotten. Maybe people prefer a human God.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
If God lost love for humanity we would cease to exist
That is a meaningful statement of course, unless God is a human or some sort of creature. Then it has no meaning, so the OP is confusing.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
That is a meaningful statement of course, unless God is a human or some sort of creature. Then it has no meaning, so the OP is confusing.

It is my belief that God is love, humanity exists because through Grace it is loved.
There is "grace at the roots of the world." The universe is rooted in grace. It exists because it is loved absolutely." Rahner
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Why should God love humanity when humanity is the very definition of irony ?

People preach God and teachings yet the world still doesn't care about Gods work .


My view, its people who love their idea of god.

If any god exists they sure have shown nothing resembling love
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
It is my belief that God is love, humanity exists because through Grace it is loved.
There is "grace at the roots of the world." The universe is rooted in grace. It exists because it is loved absolutely." Rahner
Your belief, not a fact.
 

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
Yes, you can say your opinion, but holding on to your past so much that it still destroy your day is not healthy
  • Isabelle Holland once wrote, regarding alcohol-drinking, "Nobody ever stops drinking until the cost of drinking becomes higher than the cost of not drinking."
  • Take out the word "drinking" and this is what remains: "Nobody ever stops ________ until the cost of ________ becomes higher than the cost of not ________."
  • Next, think of an addiction--it doesn't matter which one you choose--and fill in the blank spaces with the addiction's name. Then ask yourself if the sentence still holds true.
  • When a person believes they have been unjustly abused--whether they have or have not been unfairly abused is irrelevant, what is relevant is that they believe they have been, the wound from the abuse festers and grows worse.
  • If the wound is not healed, they risk dying a miserable death.
  • Be careful, when you meet a wounded person, ... especially if you do not have the ability to cure them: they will abuse you.
 
My view, its people who love their idea of god.

If any god exists they sure have shown nothing resembling love
I suppose that is true as surely a God wouldn't allow suffering. If such an entity existed then why doesn't the entity make an appearance or help the suffering in the world ?
The idealism of God is there but there is no apparent purposefully intent from God to make change. My understanding is that reality suppose to have proofs and to see proofs is the basis of reality. I'm not one for believing things without proof of observation , its ghosts and goblins to me and I'm very particular in what I believe . I can't believe a big bang started from an empty space so something or some process must of set off a change of events that created everything. I like to think that sometimes imagination is enough but then there is reality as opposed insanity. Are we all insane in that everything we believe strongly in might just be our imagination and we have not discovered our higher purpose yet? I think no matter what we prove there will always still be belief.
 
It is my belief that God is love, humanity exists because through Grace it is loved.
There is "grace at the roots of the world." The universe is rooted in grace. It exists because it is loved absolutely." Rahner
I would say God means caring for others in a living way.
 
  • Isabelle Holland once wrote, regarding alcohol-drinking, "Nobody ever stops drinking until the cost of drinking becomes higher than the cost of not drinking."
  • Take out the word "drinking" and this is what remains: "Nobody ever stops ________ until the cost of ________ becomes higher than the cost of not ________."
  • Next, think of an addiction--it doesn't matter which one you choose--and fill in the blank spaces with the addiction's name. Then ask yourself if the sentence still holds true.
  • When a person believes they have been unjustly abused--whether they have or have not been unfairly abused is irrelevant, what is relevant is that they believe they have been, the wound from the abuse festers and grows worse.
  • If the wound is not healed, they risk dying a miserable death.
  • Be careful, when you meet a wounded person, ... especially if you do not have the ability to cure them: they will abuse you.
Alcohol is a man made disaster that causes more deaths than bullets. Why do we invent /create such utter strange things that harm life as opposed to saving it ?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
  • Isabelle Holland once wrote, regarding alcohol-drinking, "Nobody ever stops drinking until the cost of drinking becomes higher than the cost of not drinking."
  • Take out the word "drinking" and this is what remains: "Nobody ever stops ________ until the cost of ________ becomes higher than the cost of not ________."
  • Next, think of an addiction--it doesn't matter which one you choose--and fill in the blank spaces with the addiction's name. Then ask yourself if the sentence still holds true.
  • When a person believes they have been unjustly abused--whether they have or have not been unfairly abused is irrelevant, what is relevant is that they believe they have been, the wound from the abuse festers and grows worse.
  • If the wound is not healed, they risk dying a miserable death.
  • Be careful, when you meet a wounded person, ... especially if you do not have the ability to cure them: they will abuse you.
I will take your advice, and yes it is a good advice you give :)
I can not cure someone who does not wish to be cured, unfortunately
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I suppose that is true as surely a God wouldn't allow suffering. If such an entity existed then why doesn't the entity make an appearance or help the suffering in the world ?
The idealism of God is there but there is no apparent purposefully intent from God to make change. My understanding is that reality suppose to have proofs and to see proofs is the basis of reality. I'm not one for believing things without proof of observation , its ghosts and goblins to me and I'm very particular in what I believe . I can't believe a big bang started from an empty space so something or some process must of set off a change of events that created everything. I like to think that sometimes imagination is enough but then there is reality as opposed insanity. Are we all insane in that everything we believe strongly in might just be our imagination and we have not discovered our higher purpose yet? I think no matter what we prove there will always still be belief.


Good post and i need to discuss the big bang a little. There is evidence of the BB from various sources so there is little doubt it occurred. But what caused it??? That is the question I know several hypothesis, non say god did it and only 2 claim the universe came from nothing and they can both be justified mathematically.

Empty space a non starter because space cannot be empty.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Alcohol is a man made disaster that causes more deaths than bullets. Why do we invent /create such utter strange things that harm life as opposed to saving it ?
Jesus liked his booze so much he made it part of the sacrament and made sure it didn't run out at the wedding party.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Jesus liked his booze so much he made it part of the sacrament and made sure it didn't run out at the wedding party.
Can you prove Jesus drank alcohol? But yes it is said he did make wine to a meal at a wedding.
Does not say anything about He or others were alcoholics.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Why should God love humanity when humanity is the very definition of irony ?

People preach God and teachings yet the world still doesn't care about Gods work .

Humanity is never forced to accept God’s ways and as He gave us the right to choose our own path He loves us for who we are whether we believe in Him or not.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Humanity is never forced to accept God’s ways and as He gave us the right to choose our own path He loves us for who we are whether we believe in Him or not.
In your
Can you prove Jesus drank alcohol? But yes it is said he did make wine to a meal at a wedding.
Does not say anything about He or others were alcoholics.

The Bible suggests he drank it and encouraged others to do so too.
 
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