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Contradictions in the Bible

Phaedrus

Phaedrus

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Faithofchristian said:
Now that's amazing. How you come up with such things. As there is no contradictions in the Bible. Only you and others taking things out of it's context.

Back during the year 1611. Those men who translated the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts into English.
Did their best with what limited tools they had at that time.
Those people back in the year of 1611,
did not have all the necessary tools nor the technology as we have to day at their disposal to do a proper job of translation of languages into the English language, As we have to day.
So when you say there are contradictions in the Bible. Just remember those people back in the year 1611. did the best they could with what limited tools they had nor did they have the technology as we do to day.
To translate languages into the English language.
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Keeping in mind that fallible men make mistakes, we cannot trust present biblical translations to be accurate. Further considering that we have no original New Testament documents with which to work, that what we presently have is copies of copies of copies of fallible human mistakes that simply cannot be trusted to be accurate in what it presents, it is unreasonable to place one's faith in such a book.
 
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Faithofchristian

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Phaedrus said:
Keeping in mind that fallible men make mistakes, we cannot trust present biblical translations to be accurate. Further considering that we have no original New Testament documents with which to work, that what we presently have is copies of copies of copies of fallible human mistakes that simply cannot be trusted to be accurate in what it presents, it is unreasonable to place one's faith in such a book.
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Now that is Amazing. So what your saying That the Almighty God is not powerful enough to protect his own word. Now that's totally amazing.
 
Dan From Smithville

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
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Subduction Zone said:
Do you need the full state? That is what you would need to do to be able to claim to be reasoning rationally. I may be wrong, but I did assume that you wished to reason rationally.
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Initially I assumed that too, but then I had a few exchanges and realized my assumptions were incorrect.
 
Good-Ole-Rebel

Good-Ole-Rebel

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Audie said:
There you go again. We've seen this
before in others. The mind functions
as a all-purpose converter.

Whatever goes in is turned into something
else and comes back out unrecognizable

Weirdly, the Converters are totally self-unaware
and would never admit they do it.

A "conversation" with ye converster is rather like
"parallel play" seen in babies who've not developed
the social skill of interactive play.
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Just trying to understand your comments.

I answer you and others as a believer in Jesus Christ and as one who believes the Bible is the Word of God.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
rrobs said:
I freely admitted you might be right. I hoped you might help me find the right answer.
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Right about what? I just asked you a question.

Or is this a way of you saying that the bible does NOT claim to be the word of God, but without actually saying so? Why not say it, then? There is no shame in it, surely?
 
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Good-Ole-Rebel

Good-Ole-Rebel

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Subduction Zone said:
I see that you are unfamiliar with the problem of evil:

Problem of evil - Wikipedia

It was the Greek philosopher Epicurus that first wrote of this:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

Your statement about God is of no value without evidence or reason. And it logically follows that he is the source of evil in the world.
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My statements about God will always be based upon the Bible.

I make no pretense in understanding all about the origin of evil and God's use of it. I believe what God has said about it in the Bible.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
Jayhawker Soule said:
A problem with this line of inquiry is that any time one starts talking about "the Bible" as one thing, rather than a number of things accreted over time, one has skewed the question.
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Oh I agree. The point I am driving towards is that people think the collection of scripture that makes up the bible is the word of God because that is what they have been taught.

For those of us who grew up in mainstream Christianity that is fine: we were taught a lot of doctrines.
However for those fundamentalist Protestants who claim to operate by sola scriptura , it seems to me important they recognise that even their faith is rooted in a proposition taught to them - and for which the evidence is debatable. And they cannot get it from the bible itself.
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
Good-Ole-Rebel said:
My belief, as Scripture says, is that God sends the Truth. Those who reject the Truth, get sent the lie. And they jump at it like a bass under a log.

Well, yes, the Christians are to be found in the religious right. Just like atheists and so many others are found in the atheistic liberal left.

This is why the divisions are so stark, that there is no bridge. No compromise.

Good-Ole-Rebel
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So God sends these people a lie. So your God is a liar. Nice.
 
Dan From Smithville

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
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InChrist said:
The way I see it is that God is not sending people a lie or delusion to trick people or anything like that. Those who have already rejected the truth and have deliberately chosen evil over good, are sent a delusion to expose and reveal their heart and mind which is already immersed in falsehood and bent on evil.
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I cannot make any sense of this.

What is the point of sending delusions to those that have already rejected God? Wouldn't God know they have rejected Him? What would the purpose be for creating delusions in those already existing in a delusion (your falsehood) and bent on evil?

This all sounds like poorly constructed rationalization to explain observations and understanding of objective reality.
 
Dan From Smithville

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
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Premium Member
Good-Ole-Rebel said:
My statements about God will always be based upon the Bible.
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That is a contradiction, considering that a number of passages of the Bible claim that God does not lie, even, cannot lie. Given that you follow the Bible, then how can your claim that God lies to some people be correct and be following the Bible?
 
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