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Israel tear down Palestinian homes

Cooky

Cooky

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Wasp said:
That's not logical. It doesn't mean they don't want peace. They want peace. And they also want back every last square centimeter of the land that was taken from them.
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So teaching children to strive for Islamic martyrdom means they're for peace?
 
Shad

Shad

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Wasp said:
All of the land that originally belonged to Palestinians.
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And they lost a civil war and multiple wars after. They are not going to get what they want. PA needs to acknowledge that.

FYI more Germans were displaces when USSR annexed a part of eastern Germany to Poland. Around 12 million displaced Germans. German isn't trying to get that land back as it has accepted reality.
 
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Wasp

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Shad said:
And they lost a civil war and multiple wars after. They are not going to get what they want. PA needs to acknowledge that.

FYI more Germans were displaces when USSR annexed a part of eastern Germany to Poland. Around 12 million displaced Germans. German isn't trying to get that land back as it has accepted reality.
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I don't ask people unjustly treated to 'just accept it', that's violence of its own kind. You support the Israelis you support the murders they commit as well.
 
Shad

Shad

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Wasp said:
I don't ask people unjustly treated to 'just accept it', that's violence of its own kind. You support the Israelis you support the murders they commit as well.
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Wrong. I am acknowledging and posting facts about the whole mess such as losing repeated wars. This makes the PA position one of the vanquished not the victor. Some demands are not going to be met so why make those demands? That was my point. Hence my example of Germany. PA is not going to get what it wants. It must acknowledge that fact. My point was about concessions in negotiating peace.
 
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Shad

Shad

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Amanaki said:
That means bort can live there
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Extreme Zionist believe in Israel from the River to the Sea. Islamist believe once a land is Muslim it must be Muslim forever as per the Hamas charter quoting Islamic sources.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

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Labourwave said:
Do you defend the decision of vile, despotic regimes to defend themselves against revolting colonized peoples?
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You do realize Palestine is largely ran and operated by extremists, don't you? They won't stop at what's right or fair. They, and many of their allies and supporters, won't stop until Israel and the Jews are dead. Of course not all Palestinians themselves are extremists or terrorists, but Hamas and their leading regimes have demonstrated they are very capable of and willing to hide behind journalists, aid workers, children, and the innocent in general. Especially at the boarder, it's an ugly situation. Israel shouldn't be expected to be pacifist about real and present dangers knocking on their door and trying to get in.
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Shad said:
Extreme Zionist believe in Israel from the River to the Sea. Islamist believe once a land is Muslim it must be Muslim forever as per the Hamas charter quoting Islamic sources.
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Well both Extreme sides are wrong. They need to live side by side peacefully. But Israel do take the homes of Palestina, that is a fact
 
Shad

Shad

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Amanaki said:
Well both Extreme sides are wrong. They need to live side by side peacefully. But Israel do take the homes of Palestina, that is a fact
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And Palestine bomb people. This is part of the problem. Every action is returned in kind. Some one in WB is killed so a bunch of people go kill some shopkeeper. Then the IDF bombs WB rinse and /repeat.
 
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Wasp

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Shadow Wolf said:
You do realize Palestine is largely ran and operated by extremists, don't you? They won't stop at what's right or fair. They, and many of their allies and supporters, won't stop until Israel and the Jews are dead. Of course not all Palestinians themselves are extremists or terrorists, but Hamas and their leading regimes have demonstrated they are very capable of and willing to hide behind journalists, aid workers, children, and the innocent in general. Especially at the boarder, it's an ugly situation. Israel shouldn't be expected to be pacifist about real and present dangers knocking on their door and trying to get in.
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Yeah. BECAUSE a few terrorists might use Palestinian kids in the war and get them killed, the Israelis might as well shoot the kids through the fences and get it over with. What's the difference, right?
 
Shad

Shad

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Wasp said:
Yeah. B

Yeah. BECAUSE a few terrorists might use Palestinian kids in the war and get them killed, the Israelis might as well shoot the kids through the fences and get it over with. What's the difference, right?
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Use of human shields is a tactic by Hamas to play on your emotions.
 
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