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Israel tear down Palestinian homes

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Wasp

Active Member
Shad said:
Extreme Zionist believe in Israel from the River to the Sea. Islamist believe once a land is Muslim it must be Muslim forever as per the Hamas charter quoting Islamic sources.
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The children say, "don't take from the hands of another." shall we go with that?
 
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Wasp

Active Member
Shad said:
Use of human shields is a tactic by Hamas to play on your emotions.
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It doesn't really play with mine since I don't care who's fault that a child was shot but that Israel did the shooting regardless.

They're also well known for shooting medical personnel.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Wasp said:
Yeah. B

Yeah. BECAUSE a few terrorists might use Palestinian kids in the war and get them killed, the Israelis might as well shoot the kids through the fences and get it over with. What's the difference, right?
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There are far too many examples of Palestine doing such things to accurately state this is only being done by a few terrorists. It's not like it is, here in the West, where we get to live with these terrorists as some fuzzy abstract idea that has no bearing in our lives (especially in America). We are talking about the Middle East, about Israel, about the Jews, and groups, including one right next door, that wants them all dead. We can very safely sleep at night knowing most Muslims aren't terrorists. Israel doesn't get that luxury because that minority is living in the house next door, and their friends aren't far away.
 
Shad

Shad

Veteran Member
Wasp said:
It doesn't really play with mine since I don't care who's fault that a child was shot but that Israel did the shooting regardless.
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Again look up what a human shield is. The counter is surrender or to take horrible actions. If an enemy finds out you wont ever harm children they will just strap children to their body and kill you while you stand your moral high ground. You are still dead in the end.You still lost and they won.

You are not questioning the tactic or Hamas. Instead of blaming people making a horrible choice.

Human shield - Wikipedia

They're also well known for shooting medical personnel.
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Yup.

It is a dirty type of warfare.
 
Flankerl

Flankerl

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Wasp said:
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Wasp

Active Member
Shadow Wolf said:
There are far too many examples of Palestine doing such things to accurately state this is only being done by a few terrorists. It's not like it is, here in the West, where we get to live with these terrorists as some fuzzy abstract idea that has no bearing in our lives (especially in America). We are talking about the Middle East, about Israel, about the Jews, and groups, including one right next door, that wants them all dead. We can very safely sleep at night knowing most Muslims aren't terrorists. Israel doesn't get that luxury because that minority is living in the house next door, and their friends aren't far away.
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I know who we're talking about. Those kids throwing stones and trying to get through the fence aren't terrorists but a minority of them perhaps. Those are called angry Palestinians.

I'm not afraid of random terrorists. So no, that doesn't keep me awake at night. What's far more horrifying than them is that you imagine those Israelis aren't terrorists.

"Israel’s military typically arrests and prosecutes 500 to 700 Palestinian children between the ages of 12 and 17 each year, subjecting them to coercive interrogation, physical violence, and trials in military courts that lack basic guarantees of due process.
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“Israel’s system of military juvenile detention is state-sponsored child abuse designed to intimidate and terrorize Palestinian children and their families,” McCollum said in a statement on Wednesday.
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The bill notes that Human Rights Watch reported in 2018 that Israel’s security forces detained Palestinian children “often using unnecessary force, questioned them without a family member present, and made them sign confessions in Hebrew, which most did not understand.”
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As the text of McCollum’s bill explains, these abuses are well-known to the United States government. The findings section of the bill notes that the State Department’s 2013 human rights report pointed to evidence “that Israeli security services continued to abuse, and in some cases torture minors, frequently arrested on suspicion of stone-throwing, in order to coerce confessions. The torture tactics used included threats, intimidation, long-term handcuffing, beatings, and solitary confinement.”
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from 739 Palestinian children who were detained in the West Bank between 2013 and 2018. DCIP found that 73 percent of the children had endured physical violence, 86 percent were blindfolded, 96 percent were interrogated without having a parent or family member present, 20 percent were subjected to stress positions by interrogators, and 49 percent were detained from their homes in the middle of the night. More than 120 of the children had been held in isolation for interrogation purposes for an average of 13 days before any charges were filed."
New House Bill Would Bar Israel From Using U.S. Military Aid to Detain Palestinian Children
 
Darkforbid

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
The Reverend Bob said:
That still doesn't justify escalation of hostilities. Just people do not mow down kids with tanks just because they threw rocks at the tank. Just people. Does the concept of being JUST resonate with you, or is it something foreign to you?
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So you're of the opinion Israel should not retaliate and allow rocket attacks, snipers, suicide bombers, incendiary balloon ect

Because they hid behind children, hospitals, schools,,,

Wow
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Wasp said:
I know who we're talking about. Those kids throwing stones and trying to get through the fence aren't terrorists but a minority of them perhaps. Those are called angry Palestinians.

I'm not afraid of random terrorists. So no, that doesn't keep me awake at night. What's far more horrifying than them is that you imagine those Israelis aren't terrorists.

"Israel’s military typically arrests and prosecutes 500 to 700 Palestinian children between the ages of 12 and 17 each year, subjecting them to coercive interrogation, physical violence, and trials in military courts that lack basic guarantees of due process.
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“Israel’s system of military juvenile detention is state-sponsored child abuse designed to intimidate and terrorize Palestinian children and their families,” McCollum said in a statement on Wednesday.
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The bill notes that Human Rights Watch reported in 2018 that Israel’s security forces detained Palestinian children “often using unnecessary force, questioned them without a family member present, and made them sign confessions in Hebrew, which most did not understand.”
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As the text of McCollum’s bill explains, these abuses are well-known to the United States government. The findings section of the bill notes that the State Department’s 2013 human rights report pointed to evidence “that Israeli security services continued to abuse, and in some cases torture minors, frequently arrested on suspicion of stone-throwing, in order to coerce confessions. The torture tactics used included threats, intimidation, long-term handcuffing, beatings, and solitary confinement.”
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from 739 Palestinian children who were detained in the West Bank between 2013 and 2018. DCIP found that 73 percent of the children had endured physical violence, 86 percent were blindfolded, 96 percent were interrogated without having a parent or family member present, 20 percent were subjected to stress positions by interrogators, and 49 percent were detained from their homes in the middle of the night. More than 120 of the children had been held in isolation for interrogation purposes for an average of 13 days before any charges were filed."
New House Bill Would Bar Israel From Using U.S. Military Aid to Detain Palestinian Children
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I didn't claim they were perfect. However, where there has been children throwing stones, there have been Hamas operatives among those throwing stones in attempt to shift public support. Israel could do things differently, but we shouldn't expect them to cease defending themselves. And do not forget, these "angry Palestinians," many of them have embraced radical and extremist ideology. They will stoop to incredible lows because their twisted and perverted faith allows them to justify all manners of atrocities in the name of their unholy jihad. Israel doesn't even get the assurance of mutually assured destruction to help keep them safe like the East and West did during the Cold War. Literally, for Israel, it's kill or be killed.
 
The Reverend Bob

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Darkforbid said:
So you're of the opinion Israel should not retaliate and allow rocket attacks, snipers, suicide bombers, incendiary balloon ect

Because they hid behind children, hospitals, schools,,,

Wow
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Can you comprehend a simple sentence. Rocks. Do you understand what a rock is. Do we have to explain what a rock is to you? Have you ever seen a rock?
 
Darkforbid

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Wasp said:
I know who we're talking about. Those kids throwing stones and trying to get through the fence aren't terrorists but a minority of them perhaps. Those are called angry Palestinians.

I'm not afraid of random terrorists. So no, that doesn't keep me awake at night. What's far more horrifying than them is that you imagine those Israelis aren't terrorists.

"Israel’s military typically arrests and prosecutes 500 to 700 Palestinian children between the ages of 12 and 17 each year, subjecting them to coercive interrogation, physical violence, and trials in military courts that lack basic guarantees of due process.
.....
“Israel’s system of military juvenile detention is state-sponsored child abuse designed to intimidate and terrorize Palestinian children and their families,” McCollum said in a statement on Wednesday.
......
The bill notes that Human Rights Watch reported in 2018 that Israel’s security forces detained Palestinian children “often using unnecessary force, questioned them without a family member present, and made them sign confessions in Hebrew, which most did not understand.”
.....
As the text of McCollum’s bill explains, these abuses are well-known to the United States government. The findings section of the bill notes that the State Department’s 2013 human rights report pointed to evidence “that Israeli security services continued to abuse, and in some cases torture minors, frequently arrested on suspicion of stone-throwing, in order to coerce confessions. The torture tactics used included threats, intimidation, long-term handcuffing, beatings, and solitary confinement.”
.....
from 739 Palestinian children who were detained in the West Bank between 2013 and 2018. DCIP found that 73 percent of the children had endured physical violence, 86 percent were blindfolded, 96 percent were interrogated without having a parent or family member present, 20 percent were subjected to stress positions by interrogators, and 49 percent were detained from their homes in the middle of the night. More than 120 of the children had been held in isolation for interrogation purposes for an average of 13 days before any charges were filed."
New House Bill Would Bar Israel From Using U.S. Military Aid to Detain Palestinian Children
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Palestinians have used children as a political tools, human shields for decades

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