How about a sliding-scale federal minimum wage?

[Jonathan Bailey]

a better idea might be for the federal govt. to mandate a minimum wage that may vary from state to state and city to city based on one's buying power in a particular location, the local cost of living index

a sliding scale minimum wage based on local economies nationwide

A full-time janitor living and working in San Francisco should have the same buying power on his wages than a full-time janitor living and working in Muskogee, Oklahoma has in that town.

The janitor living and working in San Francisco is going to need a considerably higher wage than an Oklahoma janitor.

As rich as San Francisco is, I don't think those bank executives in the financial district on Market Street want dirty office buildings there and certainly the college-educated there aren't going to push brooms or floor waxing machines.

Still, the mandate should be for a doable living wage that fully satisfies all human living needs no matter what we do for a living, and where we live and work whether we push brooms, paint curbs, read parking meters, perform brain surgery, flip Big Macs or swing carpenter hammers clad in bib overalls.

 

[Rival]

My inner Communist is buzzing. I think this is a reasonable idea but it would have to be implemented very carefully. Well done tovarisch.

 

[robocop (actually)]

a better idea might be for the federal govt. to mandate a minimum wage that may vary from state to state and city to city based on one's buying power in a particular location, the local cost of living index

a sliding scale minimum wage based on local economies nationwide

A full-time janitor living and working in San Francisco should have the same buying power on his wages than a full-time janitor living and working in Muskogee, Oklahoma has in that town.

The janitor living and working in San Francisco is going to need a considerably higher wage than an Oklahoma janitor.

As rich as San Francisco is, I don't think those bank executives in the financial district on Market Street want dirty office buildings there and certainly the college-educated there aren't going to push brooms or floor waxing machines.

Still, the mandate should be for a doable living wage that fully satisfies all human living needs no matter what we do for a living, and where we live and work whether we push brooms, paint curbs, read parking meters, perform brain surgery, flip Big Macs or swing carpenter hammers clad in bib overalls.

It's better than the other kind... I'm pretty sure of that.

 

[dianaiad]

a better idea might be for the federal govt. to mandate a minimum wage that may vary from state to state and city to city based on one's buying power in a particular location, the local cost of living index

a sliding scale minimum wage based on local economies nationwide

A full-time janitor living and working in San Francisco should have the same buying power on his wages than a full-time janitor living and working in Muskogee, Oklahoma has in that town.

The janitor living and working in San Francisco is going to need a considerably higher wage than an Oklahoma janitor.

As rich as San Francisco is, I don't think those bank executives in the financial district on Market Street want dirty office buildings there and certainly the college-educated there aren't going to push brooms or floor waxing machines.

Still, the mandate should be for a doable living wage that fully satisfies all human living needs no matter what we do for a living, and where we live and work whether we push brooms, paint curbs, read parking meters, perform brain surgery, flip Big Macs or swing carpenter hammers clad in bib overalls.

That already happens.

California's minimum wage is $12. per hour. Individual counties and cities can go higher: San Francisco's minimum wage is $15.00 per hour. Los Angeles Minimum wage is $14.25 per hour.

The Federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour.

As a matter of fact, only 18 of the 50 states pay the Federal level of minimum wage. Everybody else requires more. In fact, raising the Federal minimum wage isn't going to affect things very much; the feds have quite a way to go to match what most states are already doing.

 

[Brickjectivity]

a better idea might be for the federal govt. to mandate a minimum wage that may vary from state to state and city to city based on one's buying power in a particular location, the local cost of living index

a sliding scale minimum wage based on local economies nationwide

A full-time janitor living and working in San Francisco should have the same buying power on his wages than a full-time janitor living and working in Muskogee, Oklahoma has in that town.

The janitor living and working in San Francisco is going to need a considerably higher wage than an Oklahoma janitor.

As rich as San Francisco is, I don't think those bank executives in the financial district on Market Street want dirty office buildings there and certainly the college-educated there aren't going to push brooms or floor waxing machines.

Still, the mandate should be for a doable living wage that fully satisfies all human living needs no matter what we do for a living, and where we live and work whether we push brooms, paint curbs, read parking meters, perform brain surgery, flip Big Macs or swing carpenter hammers clad in bib overalls.

Perhaps it should be based upon the size of the corporation, its valuation and the income of its highest paid employees. Maybe you could somewhat force higher pay from larger companies. That might encourage them to break up a little more often and improve competition and the job market in general. A corporation may hold stock in other corporations, and that should automatically be a factor, too.

 

[Jonathan Bailey]

That already happens.

California's minimum wage is $12. per hour. Individual counties and cities can go higher: San Francisco's minimum wage is $15.00 per hour. Los Angeles Minimum wage is $14.25 per hour.

The Federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour.

As a matter of fact, only 18 of the 50 states pay the Federal level of minimum wage. Everybody else requires more. In fact, raising the Federal minimum wage isn't going to affect things very much; the feds have quite a way to go to match what most states are already doing.

Oklahoma is at federal: $7.25 as is Comanche County, Lawton, OK.

Some Oklahoma lawmakers want to up it to $10.50.

Oklahoma lawmakers seek to increase state’s minimum wage

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Oklahoma is at federal: $7.25 as is Comanche County, Lawton, OK.

Thats what it is in Indiana, and there is no living off that.

 

[dianaiad]

Thats what it is in Indiana, and there is no living off that.

It's a lot easier to address this at the state level, rather than the federal level.

 

[Twilight Hue]

a better idea might be for the federal govt. to mandate a minimum wage that may vary from state to state and city to city based on one's buying power in a particular location, the local cost of living index

a sliding scale minimum wage based on local economies nationwide

A full-time janitor living and working in San Francisco should have the same buying power on his wages than a full-time janitor living and working in Muskogee, Oklahoma has in that town.

The janitor living and working in San Francisco is going to need a considerably higher wage than an Oklahoma janitor.

As rich as San Francisco is, I don't think those bank executives in the financial district on Market Street want dirty office buildings there and certainly the college-educated there aren't going to push brooms or floor waxing machines.

Still, the mandate should be for a doable living wage that fully satisfies all human living needs no matter what we do for a living, and where we live and work whether we push brooms, paint curbs, read parking meters, perform brain surgery, flip Big Macs or swing carpenter hammers clad in bib overalls.

Personally I would probably go for a percentage based wage, that runs parallel with the CEOs wage. Basically a tether from the highest paid to the lowest.

When you hear CEOs make an 300 to 400 times the amount of the employee I think it's time for some tethering to be instituted to make sure everybody who makes the company run gets their fair share of the work they put in with their Blood Sweat and Tears.

I think exceptions like sole proprietorships obviously would be exempt or small family-run businesses. Wages are usually within a scope where the owner isn't making 300 to 400 times the amount over an employee.

What I'm talking about is primarily large corporations where the bulk goes to the executives and the CEOs and everyone else gets crumbs that they can barely live on.

 

[Brickjectivity]

What if we tack it to a minimal fraction of what lawyers and physician make per hour/year?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's a lot easier to address this at the state level, rather than the federal level.

In this case it is. At this point the only real reason for the fed to step in is because those handful of states have failed to act on their own, with an updated minimum wage to reflect a suitable average for those states lagging behind. This issue is much easier for the state to address, but unfortunately too many of them aren't, and really it does hurt the entire state as a whole.

 

[Watchmen]

a better idea might be for the federal govt. to mandate a minimum wage that may vary from state to state and city to city based on one's buying power in a particular location, the local cost of living index

a sliding scale minimum wage based on local economies nationwide

A full-time janitor living and working in San Francisco should have the same buying power on his wages than a full-time janitor living and working in Muskogee, Oklahoma has in that town.

The janitor living and working in San Francisco is going to need a considerably higher wage than an Oklahoma janitor.

As rich as San Francisco is, I don't think those bank executives in the financial district on Market Street want dirty office buildings there and certainly the college-educated there aren't going to push brooms or floor waxing machines.

Still, the mandate should be for a doable living wage that fully satisfies all human living needs no matter what we do for a living, and where we live and work whether we push brooms, paint curbs, read parking meters, perform brain surgery, flip Big Macs or swing carpenter hammers clad in bib overalls.

Or let states and local municipalities decide. In fact, they already do. Feds don’t need to be involved.

 

[Watchmen]

When you hear CEOs make an 300 to 400 times the amount of the employee I think it's time for some tethering to be instituted to make sure everybody who makes the company run gets their fair share of the work they put in with their Blood Sweat and Tears.

Why? The CEOs do way more than the 9 to 5 workers making the widget.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

I say we do away with the minimum wage altogether and give everyone a basic universal income of at least a $1,000 a month

 

[We Never Know]

I say we do away with the minimum wage altogether and give everyone a basic universal income of at least a $1,000 a month

Wouldn't work. In New York for example a very small 400 square foot apartment rents for $1800 monthly.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Wouldn't work. In New York for example a very small 400 square foot apartment rents for $1800 monthly.

Well that means you have to go out and work for the extra $800

 

[We Never Know]

Well that means you have to go out and work for the extra $800

Oh. You said "I say we do away with the minimum wage altogether and give everyone a basic universal income of at least a $1,000 a month".

So if the minimum wage is done away with, how would someone decide to pay wages to some one needing that $800 more dollars(a lot more would be needed) just for the apartment? (Keep in mind there would also be utilities, food, insurance, just to name a few).

 

[We Never Know]

I say we do away with the minimum wage altogether and give everyone a basic universal income of at least a $1,000 a month

Or maybe give everyone a universal income of at least a $1,000 a month and keep the minimum wage so they have a working income to get the extra money needed for living expenses.

 

[Jonathan Bailey]

Thats what it is in Indiana, and there is no living off that.

I thought about moving to Fort Wayne, Indiana before coming to Oklahoma a month ago. At least OK doesn't put salt on the roads during the wintertime as in Indiana to rust vehicles out. Hoosier is a Rust Belt State unlike Sooner. There are a lot of hicks in Sooner with southern drawls and I suppose the true of Hoosier also. I'm used to living the middle-class lifestyle in California until I got poorer in life.

Oklahoma has a 9% grocery tax. There is a lot of humidity and tornadoes and flash floods.

How bad are the flash floods and tornadoes in Indiana?

I'm paying $420/mo. for a 633 sq. ft. mold-smelling "beater" apartment in Lawton, OK. About 100,000 people. The area I'm in now is a real hood but I don't think it's quite as bad as Gary, IN. My PSO electric bill this month was $91.14. My fuel costs were under $27 for the power but the company charged my over $58 for the "service" fee. Are electric bills as bad in Indiana if not worse? It's odd that Oklahoma uses a power company based in Pennsylvania. Can $420/mo. get a person a better-quality 1BR unit in a nicer neighborhood in any Indiana city?

I'm now living on the VA pension for non-service-connected disability at $1,127/mo plus 15 measly dollars in food stamps and no Medicaid eligibility. Hopefully, at age 55, I will launch a new career as a truck driver followed by being a dispatcher or manager at an OTR mega-freight carrier real soon and step up to a higher life and eventually migrate back toward California or Oregon with much nicer weather and scenery although price for cost of living for my old age.

 

[We Never Know]

I thought about moving to Fort Wayne, Indiana before coming to Oklahoma a month ago. At least OK doesn't put salt on the roads during the wintertime as in Indiana to rust vehicles out. Hoosier is a Rust Belt State unlike Sooner. There are a lot of hicks in Sooner with southern drawls and I suppose the true of Hoosier also. I'm used to living the middle-class lifestyle in California until I got poorer in life.

Oklahoma has a 9% grocery tax. There is a lot of humidity and tornadoes and flash floods.

How bad are the flash floods and tornadoes in Indiana?

I'm paying $420/mo. for a 633 sq. ft. mold-smelling "beater" apartment in Lawton, OK. About 100,000 people. The area I'm in now is a real hood but I don't think it's quite as bad as Gary, IN. My PSO electric bill this month was $91.14. My fuel costs were under $27 for the power but the company charged my over $58 for the "service" fee. Are electric bills as bad in Indiana if not worse? It's odd that Oklahoma uses a power company based in Pennsylvania. Can $420/mo. get a person a better-quality 1BR unit in a nicer neighborhood in any Indiana city?

I'm now living on the VA pension for non-service-connected disability at $1,127/mo plus 15 measly dollars in food stamps and no Medicaid eligibility. Hopefully, at age 55, I will launch a new career as a truck driver followed by being a dispatcher or manager at an OTR mega-freight carrier real soon and step up to a higher life and eventually migrate back toward California or Oregon with much nicer weather and scenery although price for cost of living for my old age.

Do you mean OK doesn't use as much salt?

Apr 22, 2019 The Oklahoma Department of Transportation is fully stocked for winter weather, keeping on average 220,000 tons of salt and/or salt/sand mix on hand in strategic locations statewide. ... ODOT has 128,381 gallons of salt brine stored.

Oklahoma Department of Transportation - Did You Know