There is no evidence to support that riddle. I hope no god exists, I find the idea of a god very creepy indeed.
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stvdv
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I don't find the idea of a God creepy ... but when you mean "Bible God" then I can understand why you "find the idea creepy" ... some verses
a personality is derived from a person, a form as human. information isn't derived from humans. humans process information and sometimes assimilate it. when the person ceases to exist, the information doesn't. the person is associated with a certain place and time. in this instance, the person is a earthling.
by the understanding of the no-hiding theorem information cannot be created or destroyed, it simply transfers/transforms elsewhere.
I find the idea of any god like entity creepy.I don't find the idea of a God creepy ... but when you mean "Bible God" then I can understand why you "find the idea creepy" ... some verses
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Of coarse "what if" questions are speculative and your answer was a cop-out because it was evasive. If the question makes you uncomfortable or you don't know how to answer, then simply move on.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Let us know when that proof beyond a shadow of a doubt is available that God or eternal life is existent.... then I will react.
I think it is sad when believers cannot see things from the perspective of a nonbeliever.
You know that the Bible does not prove anything, don't you?
It is proof only to you and to other Christians.
InChrist
Free4ever
I have no trouble seeing the perspective of nonbelievers because I was a nonbeliever for over thirty years.Let us know when that proof beyond a shadow of a doubt is available that God or eternal life is existent.... then I will react.
I think it is sad when believers cannot see things from the perspective of a nonbeliever.
You know that the Bible does not prove anything, don't you?
It is proof only to you and to other Christians.
I believe the Bible proves a lot, but there is more beyond the Bible that points to God for anyone who is sincerely looking...
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
Maybe my reaction.....
“DOES A PERSON GO TO HEAVEN OR HELL RIGHT AFTER HE DIES? THE POPULAR VERSION OF THE AFTERLIFE.”
MAN WILL NOT be judged right after he dies. The Lord God has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness:
“Because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.” (Acts 17:31, NKJV)
This is the Day of Judgment, also called the Day of the Lord:
“But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.” (II Peter 3:7,10, NKJV)
On that day, the heavens will pass away, and the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.The Day of Judgment is on the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ:
“Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” (Jude 1:14-15 NKJV)
In the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, He will execute judgment on all. Thus, the Day of Judgment will take place not right after man dies but in the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Because of this, what does the Bible say regarding the dead? This is what we could read in Psalms 88:5:
“Adrift among the dead, Like the slain who lie in the grave, Whom You remember no more, And who are cut off from Your hand.” (Psalms 88:5 NKJV)
The dead lies on his grave, and remember no more for the dead’s thoughts perish:
“His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.” (Psalms 146:4 KJV)
When a person dies, his breath cease, he return to earth, and his thoughts perish. Until when the dead will remain in the grave? When will the dead rise to receive judgment? Job 14:10-12 reads:
“But man dies and is laid away; Indeed he breathes his last And where is he? As water disappears from the sea, And a river becomes parched and dries up, So man lies down and does not rise. Till the heavens are no more, They will not awake Nor be roused from their sleep.” (Job 14:10-12 NKJV)
When man dies, according to the Bible, he “lies down and does not rise.” He will not rise to received judgment “Till the heavens are no more, They will not awake Nor roused from their sleep.” The “passing away of heaven” was on the Day of the Lord, the Day of Judgment, the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (cf. II Peter 3:7, 10).
Thus, the dead will remain on their grave until the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, the day He will execute judgment to all, so only on that day men will received judgment.
Spartan
Well-Known Member
Well then it should be easy for you to identify your best ONE (1 - just ONE) person, place, or event in the Gospels that has been proven to be false. Cite the scripture #'s and your supporting argument. If you can't then you're just bloviating.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
So what happened to you that changed that?
Yes, that is true that there is more evidence than the Bible…
But are you implying that those who do not believe God exists are not sincerely looking for God?
Personally, I do not think that we can make that call because only God can ever know who is sincere and not.
I know too many atheists who I think are sincere and they would like to believe in God but they just cannot see any real evidence for God. Who am I to question their efforts and sincerity?
Skreeper
Member
I would continue doing all this evil 'gay stuff' even if it meant to be tortured as punishment.
I don't respond to threats from tyrants including gods. If a god wants me to stop doing something then he needs to give me some convincing arguments why my actions are evil.
Maybe my reaction.....
“DOES A PERSON GO TO HEAVEN OR HELL RIGHT AFTER HE DIES? THE POPULAR VERSION OF THE AFTERLIFE.”
MAN WILL NOT be judged right after he dies. The Lord God has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness:
“Because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.” (Acts 17:31, NKJV)
This is the Day of Judgment, also called the Day of the Lord:
“But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.” (II Peter 3:7,10, NKJV)
On that day, the heavens will pass away, and the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.The Day of Judgment is on the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ:
“Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” (Jude 1:14-15 NKJV)
In the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, He will execute judgment on all. Thus, the Day of Judgment will take place not right after man dies but in the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Because of this, what does the Bible say regarding the dead? This is what we could read in Psalms 88:5:
“Adrift among the dead, Like the slain who lie in the grave, Whom You remember no more, And who are cut off from Your hand.” (Psalms 88:5 NKJV)
The dead lies on his grave, and remember no more for the dead’s thoughts perish:
“His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.” (Psalms 146:4 KJV)
When a person dies, his breath cease, he return to earth, and his thoughts perish. Until when the dead will remain in the grave? When will the dead rise to receive judgment? Job 14:10-12 reads:
“But man dies and is laid away; Indeed he breathes his last And where is he? As water disappears from the sea, And a river becomes parched and dries up, So man lies down and does not rise. Till the heavens are no more, They will not awake Nor be roused from their sleep.” (Job 14:10-12 NKJV)
When man dies, according to the Bible, he “lies down and does not rise.” He will not rise to received judgment “Till the heavens are no more, They will not awake Nor roused from their sleep.” The “passing away of heaven” was on the Day of the Lord, the Day of Judgment, the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (cf. II Peter 3:7, 10).
Thus, the dead will remain on their grave until the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, the day He will execute judgment to all, so only on that day men will received judgment.
It is so sad some people actually believe all that nonsense to be true, when there is no evidence but gullibility to support it!
I wonder how the unpleasant anti-gay bigots would react if the discovered Jesus had been gay and had a great sex life with the male disciple the Bible states he loved?
We are proof God exist. The painting is proof of the Painter.
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
Yes it is sad indeed.
Imagine people believe that everything just happened accidentally and by chance.
They rather believe that nonsense
Than
Yes it is sad indeed.
Imagine people believe that everything just happened accidentally and by chance.
They rather believe that nonsense
Than
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Sad especially if you think the evil god character deserves any admiration!
Spartan
Well-Known Member
You need a convincing argument? How about the ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah?!
Associates for Biblical Research - The Discovery of the Sin Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
Sad especially if you think the evil god character deserves any admiration!
Maybe some other god or gods / goddesses
But my God is different from them.
Spartan
Well-Known Member
You know, this is the kind of creepy nonsense that makes the pro-homosexual crowd look spiritually debased. It fits right in with their debased and perverse gay pride parades, flaunting and promoting their sin in the face of God.
Maybe some other god or gods / goddesses
But my God is different from them.
It doesn't know the meaning of love!