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If your holy book fails to match reality ...
- Thread starter Looncall
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I was reading this again to think on it some more. It is actually a pretty good answer. It has a strange sort of logic to it. Then I thought about Satan and the fact that he rebelled from God. Who would--being intimately familiar with God as Satan was--do that? It is insane to know that God is all powerful, but you are going to take Him. So, the Devil does not have a good track record in these things and probably would have tried out of his own arrogance and narcissism.
Audie
Veteran Member
That is just not as silly as the
flood -make- frozen-mammoth story.
Sorry- ah, it not so easy to
parody a travesty.
It was a little silly. But you are correct. How can you out parody such tremendous parodies?
I am considering taking up this challenge.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Perfect until she sinned.
Audie
Veteran Member
No! Not the Dark side! Dont do it!!
Anyway, my boyfriend is out of town
or I wont be up late like this. Getting
a headache here. Must sleep.
Have a good evening. I hope your headache abates and you have pleasant dreams.
But that is the point. How could she be both perfect and able to sin at the same time? How could she be both flawless and flawed? It does not make sense.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Just hadn't sinned. In other words, it wasn't ignorance, which made it a sin. If not a sin, why the punishment.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You keep forgetting that your God is supposedly omniscient and omnipotent.
How can a perfect being be ignorant?
I did not say that it was not a sin or anything about punishment for sinning. You are moving out away from the points in question.
Clearly the definition of perfection is different for creationists than it is for everyone else.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
No... perfect with the choice to be not perfect.
How can a perfect being choose to be imperfect? How could a perfect being be put in a position where their perfection is at risk?
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Freewill.
Why would a perfect being need free will? By definition they would only make perfect choices.
Oh my goodness! That flew over your head?
No, Christ could've sinned! That was the point! (You ever use critical thinking, tying one Biblical event to another? It is enlightening!)
And you've forgotten what I believe...we've discussed this topic before.
Genesis 18:20-21 (NIV)...
"20Then the LORD said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great. Because their sin is so grievous, 21I will go down to see if their actions fullyjustify the outcry that has reached Me. Ifnot, I will find out.” "
-- Source: BibleHub
So God didn't know.
Psalm 78:41 Again and again they tested God and provoked the Holy One of Israel.
Your (mis)interpretation of God would make Him a sado-masochist.
While Jehovah God can opt to foresee future events, He chooses 99.9% of the time not to know which individuals will be involved, preferring to respect our use of free will.
Tiberius
Well-Known Member
If your holy book and reality disagree, then it is time to get rid of your holy book, because you can't get rid of reality.