The creator did it.

[He has Risen!]

The problem is that NDE's are likely nothing more than a perception of the physiological and chemical changes that a person undergoes as the body nears death. The similarity of the perception is not surprising considering that our body chemistry and physiology are more or less the same from one person to the next. There is no evidence that it is anything more than a biological phenomenon. All the leaps that it is some sort of evidence of God, the afterlife, the spirit world or any other supernatural experience are purely speculation.

Even if the NDE claim is made by doctors who are having the experience of seeing things in other rooms that there body is not in at that moment?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Even if the NDE claim is made by doctors who are having the experience of seeing things in other rooms that there body is not in at that moment?

Perhaps you should support your beliefs with reliable sources.

 

[Salvador]

I did not bring the topic of NDE to derail this thread, but to add yet another facet that validates the position that life is not only a materialistic experience. I have read many books on the NDE and would never promote the notion that anyone should dabble in trying to contact beings from other side. It is an area that God has warned His people to avoid. But when a person has legitimately been pronounced dead, and then experiences something beyond his natural body, I believe there is something to the consistent stories that the majority of people with NDE share.
Jesus was crucified, died, was buried in a tomb and rose on the third day. He was seen after He rose from the dead over a forty day period, after which He was taken into heaven and left us with a promise to return. I believe this, not because I am gullible, but because it happened almost 2019 years ago.

The numeric and semantic message of "037" that's been embedded in our genetic coding by our creator gets conveyed to me who computes with a base 10 numeric system.

This is evident to me by how each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us descendants of our cosmic ancestor(s) or to us simulated distant ancestors of our post human futuristic descendants with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You are a scientist. Surely you understand what happens after stepping on a Periplaneta brunnea(brown cockroach)? Surely you are aware that all living things must consume energy to maintain their order(metabolism). Once the organism is unable to consume or process energy, it will succumb to entropy and simply decay. It will simply become a small addition to the disorder of the Universe. NOTHING escapes entropy(except the humble jellyfish).

That said, how many dead relatives have you spoken to lately? Why would a self-evident claim that death is the end of life, require a burden of proof? The claim that death is it, is certainly scientifically consistent, and easily falsifiable. Since your claim requires an understanding that goes beyond any science understanding, it is you that has the burden of proof. Unless you think that your claim of an afterlife is also self-evident.

Any belief based on faith, is simply your opinion. My opinion of the reality of death is not based on faith. It is based on facts, and my understanding of the facts.

And I am entitled to my opinion. Especially, when I do not use that opinion in support of science or against it.

I am not trying to convince you that you are wrong in seeing things as you do. I cannot. But you really cannot say absolutely, that once you are dead, that is it. Saying so is also an opinion and not a fact. Remember, that intelligent design advocates also associate facts with their opinions and neither of us would agree with those opinions.

Out of curiosity, is it that I have a personal belief based on faith or that it is a personal belief about religion based on faith? I have evidence that my parents loved me, but my personal view on that is also a matter of faith. For all I know absolutely, they could have been great liars with a lot of guilt.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The numeric and semantic message of "037" that's been embedded in our genetic coding by our creator gets conveyed to me who computes with a base 10 numeric system.

This is evident to me by how. each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us descendants of our cosmic ancestor(s) with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.

Playing number games is not evidence. It is fitting observations to the unrelated. Are you the one that brings up octopus DNA being alien? That concept was never accepted and has been rather thoroughly trashed.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You are a scientist. Surely you understand what happens after stepping on a Periplaneta brunnea(brown cockroach)? Surely you are aware that all living things must consume energy to maintain their order(metabolism). Once the organism is unable to consume or process energy, it will succumb to entropy and simply decay. It will simply become a small addition to the disorder of the Universe. NOTHING escapes entropy(except the humble jellyfish).

That said, how many dead relatives have you spoken to lately? Why would a self-evident claim that death is the end of life, require a burden of proof? The claim that death is it, is certainly scientifically consistent, and easily falsifiable. Since your claim requires an understanding that goes beyond any science understanding, it is you that has the burden of proof. Unless you think that your claim of an afterlife is also self-evident.

Any belief based on faith, is simply your opinion. My opinion of the reality of death is not based on faith. It is based on facts, and my understanding of the facts.

The claim that death is the cessation of life is scientifically consistent and falsifiable. The claim that death is it, is not.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

@Misunderstood , I thought you'd like this:

https://evolutionnews.org/2011/03/a_closer_look_at_one_scientist/

 

[Salvador]

Playing number games is not evidence. It is fitting observations to the unrelated. Are you the one that brings up octopus DNA being alien? That concept was never accepted and has been rather thoroughly trashed.

The significance of the semantic message "037" embedded in our genetic coding is well-explained in the following journal articles: .
Biosystems Volume 70, Issue 3, August 2003, Pages 187-209 "Arithmetic inside the universal genetic code" Author: Vladimir I. shCherbak
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...4703000662

NeuroQuantology | December 2011 | Vol 9 | Issue 4 | Page 702-715 Masic, Natasa Nested Properties of shCherbak’s PQ 037 and (Biological) Coding/Computing Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Propertiesof shCherbak’s Prime Quantum 037 as a Base of (Biological) Coding/Computing
http://Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Properties

The human genome has 145 "alien" genes that can't be linked to any of our distant past ancestors; these genes are in our genome from the process of horizontal gene transfer. These 145 "alien" genes, which nobody inherited from any distant past terrestrial ancestor, might have been the result of genetic engineering by advanced extraterrestrial intelligence.

Reference:

Expression of multiple horizontally acquired genes is a hallmark of both vertebrate and invertebrate genomes

• Alastair Crisp,
• Chiara Boschetti,
• Malcolm Perry,
• Alan TunnacliffeEmail author and
• Gos MicklemEmail author

Genome Biology201516:50
Expression of multiple horizontally acquired genes is a hallmark of both vertebrate and invertebrate genomes

• Received: 25 September 2014
• Accepted: 4 February 2015
• Published: 13 March 2015

Cosmic ancestry theory can often explain the transitional evolutionary changes between species that aren't well-explained by traditional Darwinian evolution.

Viruses can insert new genes, which have never before encountered by a species, to become part of the species' genome. These transferred genes are a vital part evolution. According to Cosmic Ancestry, the horizontal transfer of genes by viruses and other means is essential for evolutionary progress.

Three New Human Genes
and De Novo Genes in General | What'sNEW

Entirely novel human-specific protein-coding genes originating from ancestrally noncoding sequences have been reported by two geneticists at the University of Dublin

Reference:

David G. Knowles and Aoife McLysaght, "Recent de novo origin of human protein-coding genes" [abstract], doi:10.1101/gr.095026.109, Genome Research, online 2 Sep 2009.
Discovery of novel genes..., by EurekAlert!, 1 Sep 2009.
Genes That Make Us Human, by Elizabeth Pennisi, ScienceNOW, 1 Sep 2009.
Three human genes evolved from junk, by Michael Le Page, NewScientist, 3 Sep 2009.
Which Genes Make Us Human? by Alan Boyle, MSNBC, 3 Sep 2009.

."Analyzing available data, they identified genes that are expressed in the human species but not in chimps. They then looked for simiar sequences in other primates, finding three. The chimp and macaque (unexpressed) sequences are nearly identical to the human one, but are interrupted by frameshifting insertions and stop codons.
Although the three human genes are known to be expressed from several lines of evidence, their functions are not definitively characterized. However one, chronic lymphocytic leukemia upregulated gene 1 (CLLU1), appears to have a role in that human disease. Its sequence among humans, compared to the matching one in chimps and macaques, is illustrated below.

"Multiple sequence alignment of the gene sequence of the human gene CLLU1 and similar nucleotide sequences from the syntenic location in chimp and macaque. The start codon is located immediately following the first alignment gap, which was inserted for clarity. Stop codons are indicated by red boxes. The sequenced peptide identified from this locus is indicated in orange. The critical mutation that allows the production of a protein is the deletion of an A nucleotide, which is present in both chimp and macaque (indicated by an arrow). This causes a frameshift in human that results in a much longer ORF capable of producing a 121-amino acids-long protein. Both the chimp and macaque sequences have a stop codon after only 42 potential codons." © Genome Research 2009
CLLU1 is also disabled by a matching point insertion in the gorilla and gibbon, but not orangutan, genomes. The geneticists reason, If the ancestral primate sequence was coding, then we would need to infer that an identical 1-bp insertion occurred in four lineages independently, whereas if we infer the presence of the disabler in the ancestral sequence, then we must infer two independent 1-bp deletions. The inference that the ancestral sequence was noncoding is a more parsimonious explanation of the data, even without considering that the parallel insertion of a specific base into an identical location is probably less likely than the parallel deletion of one base. ...We hypothesize that these genes have originated de novo in the human lineage, since the divergence with chimp from ancestrally noncoding sequence.

Consider the human nucleotide sequence designated CLLU1, 121 codons in length. A codon, three nucleotides, may encode any of 20 amino acids, or a stop. (But this sequence is a gene, an open reading frame with no stops.)
Assume that the protein encoded by this nucleotide sequence needs ~25%, or 30, of its codons exactly right. In other words, only 1 out of 21 codons can occupy each of those 30 positions. The chance that 30 random codons will match this sequence in one trial can be estimated as

(1/21)^30 = ~10^-40
Assume that the remaining 91 codons in this sequence may vary widely, encoding any of 10 of life's 20 amino acids, but no stops. In other words, 10 out of 21 codons can occupy each of those 91 codon positions. The chance that 91 random codons will satisfy these criteria in one trial is approximately

(10/21)^91 = ~10^-30

Combining these assumptions, the chance that a given sequence of 121 random codons will constitute a working version of this gene is on the order of

10^(-40-30) = 10^-70 ..."

(This method copies Chandra Wickramasinghe's in The Legacy of Fred Hoyle, reviewed 2005.)

Reference: Metazoan Genes Older Than Metazoa?, 25 Oct 1996.

"If a new genetic program arrives by the strong panspermia process, intervening (ancestral) species should possess either nearly identical versions of it ...or nothing similar.."
Reference: New genetic programs in Darwinism and strong panspermia, 7 Apr 2002.
.At least some of the silent DNA is for future use ."]Reference: Why Sexual Reproduction?, first posted May 1996.
"Point mutations and other simple mechanisms can switch existing programs off and on."
Reference: Testing Darwinism versus Cosmic Ancestry, 24 Nov 2002
"This process would ...depend on sophisticated software management that can recognize an installed program."
Reference: Duplication Makes A New Primate Gene, 21 Feb 2005.
"New genetic programs will be continually offered for testing."
Reference: How is it Possible?

 

[Subduction Zone]

@Misunderstood , I thought you'd like this:

https://evolutionnews.org/2011/03/a_closer_look_at_one_scientist/

That you cannot find this in a reliable source should tell you something.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You are a scientist. Surely you understand what happens after stepping on a Periplaneta brunnea(brown cockroach)? Surely you are aware that all living things must consume energy to maintain their order(metabolism). Once the organism is unable to consume or process energy, it will succumb to entropy and simply decay. It will simply become a small addition to the disorder of the Universe. NOTHING escapes entropy(except the humble jellyfish).

That said, how many dead relatives have you spoken to lately? Why would a self-evident claim that death is the end of life, require a burden of proof? The claim that death is it, is certainly scientifically consistent, and easily falsifiable. Since your claim requires an understanding that goes beyond any science understanding, it is you that has the burden of proof. Unless you think that your claim of an afterlife is also self-evident.

Any belief based on faith, is simply your opinion. My opinion of the reality of death is not based on faith. It is based on facts, and my understanding of the facts.

I am so glad that you thought my posts were worth responding to. I am enjoying our discussion very much and I appreciate your thoughts, incites and opinions, even where mine and yours do not agree.

I just wanted to reiterate that I am not making any claim more than that I believe in God. I am not using that claim to justify anything more than what it says on its face. At least not in any discussion of science. However, I recognize that it does get fuzzy around the edges considering the direction these discussions have taken.

You and Polymath are making this very interesting and enjoyable. I expect to learn something along the way. Unfortunately, I have to go to bed, but tomorrow is another day and possibly another chance to discuss. Have a good evening.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The significance of the semantic message "037" embedded in our genetic coding is well-explained in the following journal articles: .
Biosystems Volume 70, Issue 3, August 2003, Pages 187-209 "Arithmetic inside the universal genetic code" Author: Vladimir I. shCherbak
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...4703000662

NeuroQuantology | December 2011 | Vol 9 | Issue 4 | Page 702-715 Masic, Natasa Nested Properties of shCherbak’s PQ 037 and (Biological) Coding/Computing Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Propertiesof shCherbak’s Prime Quantum 037 as a Base of (Biological) Coding/Computing
http://Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Properties

The human genome has 145 "alien" genes that can't be linked to any of our distant past ancestors; these genes are in our genome from the process of horizontal gene transfer. These 145 "alien" genes, which nobody inherited from any distant past terrestrial ancestor, might have been the result of genetic engineering by advanced extraterrestrial intelligence.

Reference:

Expression of multiple horizontally acquired genes is a hallmark of both vertebrate and invertebrate genomes

• Alastair Crisp,
• Chiara Boschetti,
• Malcolm Perry,
• Alan TunnacliffeEmail author and
• Gos MicklemEmail author

Genome Biology201516:50
Expression of multiple horizontally acquired genes is a hallmark of both vertebrate and invertebrate genomes

• Received: 25 September 2014
• Accepted: 4 February 2015
• Published: 13 March 2015

Cosmic ancestry theory can often explain the transitional evolutionary changes between species that aren't well-explained by traditional Darwinian evolution.

Viruses can insert new genes, which have never before encountered by a species, to become part of the species' genome. These transferred genes are a vital part evolution. According to Cosmic Ancestry, the horizontal transfer of genes by viruses and other means is essential for evolutionary progress.

Three New Human Genes
and De Novo Genes in General | What'sNEW

Entirely novel human-specific protein-coding genes originating from ancestrally noncoding sequences have been reported by two geneticists at the University of Dublin

Reference:

David G. Knowles and Aoife McLysaght, "Recent de novo origin of human protein-coding genes" [abstract], doi:10.1101/gr.095026.109, Genome Research, online 2 Sep 2009.
Discovery of novel genes..., by EurekAlert!, 1 Sep 2009.
Genes That Make Us Human, by Elizabeth Pennisi, ScienceNOW, 1 Sep 2009.
Three human genes evolved from junk, by Michael Le Page, NewScientist, 3 Sep 2009.
Which Genes Make Us Human? by Alan Boyle, MSNBC, 3 Sep 2009.

."Analyzing available data, they identified genes that are expressed in the human species but not in chimps. They then looked for simiar sequences in other primates, finding three. The chimp and macaque (unexpressed) sequences are nearly identical to the human one, but are interrupted by frameshifting insertions and stop codons.
Although the three human genes are known to be expressed from several lines of evidence, their functions are not definitively characterized. However one, chronic lymphocytic leukemia upregulated gene 1 (CLLU1), appears to have a role in that human disease. Its sequence among humans, compared to the matching one in chimps and macaques, is illustrated below.

"Multiple sequence alignment of the gene sequence of the human gene CLLU1 and similar nucleotide sequences from the syntenic location in chimp and macaque. The start codon is located immediately following the first alignment gap, which was inserted for clarity. Stop codons are indicated by red boxes. The sequenced peptide identified from this locus is indicated in orange. The critical mutation that allows the production of a protein is the deletion of an A nucleotide, which is present in both chimp and macaque (indicated by an arrow). This causes a frameshift in human that results in a much longer ORF capable of producing a 121-amino acids-long protein. Both the chimp and macaque sequences have a stop codon after only 42 potential codons." © Genome Research 2009
CLLU1 is also disabled by a matching point insertion in the gorilla and gibbon, but not orangutan, genomes. The geneticists reason, If the ancestral primate sequence was coding, then we would need to infer that an identical 1-bp insertion occurred in four lineages independently, whereas if we infer the presence of the disabler in the ancestral sequence, then we must infer two independent 1-bp deletions. The inference that the ancestral sequence was noncoding is a more parsimonious explanation of the data, even without considering that the parallel insertion of a specific base into an identical location is probably less likely than the parallel deletion of one base. ...We hypothesize that these genes have originated de novo in the human lineage, since the divergence with chimp from ancestrally noncoding sequence.

Consider the human nucleotide sequence designated CLLU1, 121 codons in length. A codon, three nucleotides, may encode any of 20 amino acids, or a stop. (But this sequence is a gene, an open reading frame with no stops.)
Assume that the protein encoded by this nucleotide sequence needs ~25%, or 30, of its codons exactly right. In other words, only 1 out of 21 codons can occupy each of those 30 positions. The chance that 30 random codons will match this sequence in one trial can be estimated as

(1/21)^30 = ~10^-40
Assume that the remaining 91 codons in this sequence may vary widely, encoding any of 10 of life's 20 amino acids, but no stops. In other words, 10 out of 21 codons can occupy each of those 91 codon positions. The chance that 91 random codons will satisfy these criteria in one trial is approximately

(10/21)^91 = ~10^-30

Combining these assumptions, the chance that a given sequence of 121 random codons will constitute a working version of this gene is on the order of

10^(-40-30) = 10^-70 ..."

(This method copies Chandra Wickramasinghe's in The Legacy of Fred Hoyle, reviewed 2005.)

Reference: Metazoan Genes Older Than Metazoa?, 25 Oct 1996.

"If a new genetic program arrives by the strong panspermia process, intervening (ancestral) species should possess either nearly identical versions of it ...or nothing similar.."
Reference: New genetic programs in Darwinism and strong panspermia, 7 Apr 2002.
.At least some of the silent DNA is for future use ."]Reference: Why Sexual Reproduction?, first posted May 1996.
"Point mutations and other simple mechanisms can switch existing programs off and on."
Reference: Testing Darwinism versus Cosmic Ancestry, 24 Nov 2002
"This process would ...depend on sophisticated software management that can recognize an installed program."
Reference: Duplication Makes A New Primate Gene, 21 Feb 2005.
"New genetic programs will be continually offered for testing."
Reference: How is it Possible?

TLDR.

How about trying to support one claim at a time. A Gish Gallop is always an improper debating technique. If you want to do that then falsifying one falsifies all.

EDIT: I did check one of your sources and it looks to be worthless. You need to find the original sources if you want anyone to take you seriously.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

@Misunderstood , I thought you'd like this:

https://evolutionnews.org/2011/03/a_closer_look_at_one_scientist/

If the intelligent designer turns out to be a human, what are you going to do?

 

[Salvador]

TLDR.

How about trying to support one claim at a time. A Gish Gallop is always an improper debating technique. If you want to do that then falsifying one falsifies all.

EDIT: I did check one of your sources and it looks to be worthless. You need to find the original sources if you want anyone to take you seriously.

Sorry that the http://Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Properties link doesn't work for Reference: NeuroQuantology | December 2011 | Vol 9 | Issue 4 | Page 702-715 Masic, Natasa Nested Properties of shCherbak’s PQ 037 and (Biological) Coding/Computing Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Propertiesof shCherbak’s Prime Quantum 037 as a Base of (Biological) Coding/Computing
http://Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Properties

Please try the below link:
https://www.researchgate.net/public...m_037_as_a_Base_of_Biological_CodingComputing

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sorry that the http://Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Properties link doesn't work for Reference: NeuroQuantology | December 2011 | Vol 9 | Issue 4 | Page 702-715 Masic, Natasa Nested Properties of shCherbak’s PQ 037 and (Biological) Coding/Computing Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Propertiesof shCherbak’s Prime Quantum 037 as a Base of (Biological) Coding/Computing
http://Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Properties

Please try the below link:
https://www.researchgate.net/public...m_037_as_a_Base_of_Biological_CodingComputing

Always check your sources If you look at the link that you provided only 52 people have read that article. Neuroquantology does not look to be very reliable:

NeuroQuantology - Wikipedia

"In the Norwegian Register for Scientific Journals, Series and Publishers, NeuroQuantology has been listed as "Level 0" since 2008,[4] which means that it is not considered scientific and publications in the journal therefore do not fulfill the necessary criteria in order to count for public research funding.

Neither the Editorial Board nor Advisory Board at NeuroQuantology contains scientists working in the fields of quantum physics or neurology.[5]"

 

[He has Risen!]

Perhaps you should support your beliefs with reliable sources.

Who would you accept a NDE from?

 

[He has Risen!]

@Misunderstood , I thought you'd like this:

https://evolutionnews.org/2011/03/a_closer_look_at_one_scientist/

Thank you for that Hockeycowboy, great science site...even if other may show their dislike for the people on that site, they never seem to be able to refute the science that is on that site.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Who would you accept a NDE from?

I don't know. Peer review in a well respected professional journal is the gold standard. What do you have? Woo sties will only hurt your claim.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thanks you for that Hockeycowboy, great science site...even if other may show their dislike for the people on that site, they never seem to be able to refute the science that is on that site.

That is not a reliable site. It is a publication of the Discovery Institute. They were shown to be dishonest in the Dover trial. Once a site is shown to be dishonest they have to do quite a bit of atoning before anyone takes them seriously. Again if one can't find it in a well respected professional scientific journal that should tell you something.

 

[He has Risen!]

That is not a reliable site. It is a publication of the Discovery Institute. They were shown to be dishonest in the Dover trial. Once a site is shown to be dishonest they have to do quite a bit of atoning before anyone takes them seriously. Again if one can't find it in a well respected professional scientific journal that should tell you something.

Here, this is for you Subduction Zone and anyone else that is interested...

Many of their peer-reviewed scientific publications are cited among the references below.

References cited:
Douglas D. Axe, “Extreme Functional Sensitivity to Conservative Amino Acid Changes on Enzyme Exteriors,” Journal of Molecular Biology, Vol. 301:585-595 (2000).

Douglas D. Axe, “Estimating the Prevalence of Protein Sequences Adopting Functional Enzyme Folds,” Journal of Molecular Biology, 1-21 (2004).

Douglas D. Axe, Brendan W. Dixon, Philip Lu, “Stylus: A System for Evolutionary Experimentation Based on a Protein/Proteome Model with Non-Arbitrary Functional Constraints,” PLoS One, Vol. 3(6):e2246 (June 2008).

a. Douglas D. Axe, “The Case Against a Darwinian Origin of Protein Folds,” Bio-Complexity, Vol. 2010).

b. Douglas D. Axe, “The Limits of Complex Adaptation: An Analysis Based on a Simple Model of Structured Bacterial Populations,” BIO-Complexity, Vol. 2010(4):1-10.

Michael J. Behe & David W. Snoke, “Simulating Evolution by Gene Duplication of Protein Features That Require Multiple Amino Acid Residues,” Protein Science, Vol. 13:2651-2664 (2004).

Chiu, David K.Y., and Lui, Thomas W.H., “Integrated Use of Multiple Interdependent Patterns for Biomolecular Sequence Analysis,” International Journal of Fuzzy Systems, Vol. 4(3):766-775 (September, 2002).

John A. Davison, “A Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis,” Rivista di Biologia/Biology Forum, Vol. 98: 155-166. (2005).

a. William Dembski, “Intelligent Science and Design,” First Things, Vol. 86:21-27 (October 1998).

b. W.A. Dembski, The Design Inference: Eliminating Chance through Small Probabilities (Cambridge University Press, 1998).

a. William A. Dembski and Robert J. Marks II, “Conservation of Information in Search: Measuring the Cost of Success,” IEEE Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics A, Systems & Humans, Vol. 39 (5):1051-1061 (September, 2009).

b. William A. Dembski, and Robert J. Marks II, “Bernoulli’s Principle of Insufficient Reason and Conservation of Information in Computer Search,” Proceedings of the 2009 IEEE International Conference on Systems, Man, and Cybernetics San Antonio, TX, USA, 2647-2652 (October 2009).

Kirk K. Durston, David K. Y. Chiu, David L. Abel, Jack T. Trevors, “Measuring the functional sequence complexity of proteins,” Theoretical Biology and Medical Modelling, Vol. 4:47 (2007).

Winston Ewert, William A. Dembski, and Robert J. Marks II, “Evolutionary Synthesis of Nand Logic: Dissecting a Digital Organism,” Proceedings of the 2009 IEEE International Conference on Systems, Man, and Cybernetics San Antonio, TX, USA, 3047-3053 (October 2009).

Winston Ewert, George Montanez, William A. Dembski, Robert J. Marks II, “Efficient Per Query Information Extraction from a Hamming Oracle,” Proceedings of the the 42nd Meeting of the Southeastern Symposium on System Theory, IEEE, University of Texas at Tyler, March 7-9, 2010, pp.290-297.

Ann K Gauger, Stephanie Ebnet, Pamela F Fahey, Ralph Seelke, “Reductive Evolution Can Prevent Populations from Taking Simple Adaptive Paths to High Fitness,” BIO-Complexity, Vol. 2010.

Guillermo Gonzalez et al., “Refuges for Life in a Hostile Universe,” Scientific American (October, 2001).

D. Halsmer et al., “The Coherence of an Engineered World,” International Journal of Design & Nature and Ecodynamics , Vol. 4 (1):47-65 (2009).

Wolf-Ekkehard Lonnig, “Dynamic genomes, morphological stasis, and the origin of irreducible complexity,” in Dynamical Genetics pp. 101-119 (Valerio Parisi, Valeria De Fonzo, and Filippo Aluffi-Pentini eds., 2004).

Casey Luskin, “Human Origins and Intelligent Design,” Progress in Complexity and Design, (Vol 4.1, November, 2005).

Stephen C. Meyer, Marcus Ross, Paul Nelson & Paul Chien, “The Cambrian Explosion: Biology’s Big Bang,” in Darwinism, Design, and Public Education (John A. Campbell and Stephen C. Meyer eds., Michigan State University Press, 2003).

a. Stephen C. Meyer, “The Cambrian Information Explosion,” in Debating Design (edited by Michael Ruse and William Dembski; Cambridge University Press 2004).

b. Stephen C. Meyer, “The origin of biological information and the higher taxonomic categories,” Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington, Vol. 117(2):213-239 (2004).

a. A.C. McIntosh, “Information and Entropy — Top-Down or Bottom-Up Development in Living Systems?,” International Journal of Design & Nature and Ecodynamics, Vol. 4(4):351-385 (2009).

b. A.C. McIntosh, “Evidence of Design in Bird Feathers and Avian Respiration,” International Journal of Design & Nature and Ecodynamics, Vol. 4(2): 154-169 (2009).

Scott A. Minnich & Stephen C. Meyer, “Genetic analysis of coordinate flagellar and type III regulatory circuits in pathogenic bacteria,” in Proceedings of the Second International Conference on Design & Nature,

Rhodes Greece (M.W. Collins & C.A. Brebbia eds., 2004).

Paul Nelson and Jonathan Wells, “Homology in Biology,” in Darwinism, Design, and Public Education, (Michigan State University Press, 2003).

Albert D. G. de Roos, “Origins of introns based on the definition of exon modules and their conserved interfaces,” Bioinformatics, Vol. 21(1):2-9 (2005).

Albert D. G. de Roos, “Conserved intron positions in ancient protein modules,” Biology Direct, Vol. 2:7 (2007).

Albert D. G. de Roos, “The Origin of the Eukaryotic Cell Based on Conservation of Existing Interfaces,” Artificial Life, Vol. 12:513-523 (2006).

Josiah D. Seaman and John C. Sanford, “Skittle: A 2-Dimensional Genome Visualization Tool,” BMC Informatics, Vol. 10:451 (2009).

Michael Sherman, “Universal Genome in the Origin of Metazoa: Thoughts About Evolution,” Cell Cycle, Vol. 6(15):1873-1877 (August 1, 2007).

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[Hockeycowboy]

If the intelligent designer turns out to be a human, what are you going to do?

An intelligent designer, made of matter? Then I’ll wonder, “Who created him?”