I wrote in the Paris Climate Accord post the following to convince people of the science (skip this post if you are already convinced):
Of course now the models fit perfectly.
So we know it is a problem. The question is, what do we do about it?
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Latter-day Saints do not have an official view on Climate Change. But we believe God has had a plan for all past people on Earth and has a plan for all future ones. That doesn't mean the population on Earth hasn't been decimated before. The Black plague, I believe, cut the Earth's population by 33%.
So it could definitely happen, but we needn't worry that God won't be able to accomplish his plan.
I think we should try to do as much as we reasonably can if we cannot do enough. Emerging technologies or new resources might make up the rest, but it would suck if they didn't, so the more we do the better our chances. Some people think we are not ready for change, but perhaps we have to be ready now. It is a moonshot, but it could be very positive.
robocop (actually) said:OK so here are some things that I know.
Climate models do not just show the Arctic Ocean melting, the rain forests being cut down, or cities polluting the skies. They involve everything from the ground to the sky. They put cubes to cover the earth and add layers to get to the highest atmosphere.
Each cube is measured for how much heat it produces, how much it consumes, and how much it sends and receives heat from neighboring cubes.
This is called a huge set of differential equations. We cannot solve the equations but we can approximate them as close as we want, given time. Also, to account for cities some of the cubes could fit the cities. More cubes and better approximations keep coming with greater computer power.
But don’t worry about it being incorrect because the models already match the data. There were some 50 climate models that were looked at that included only natural forcings (only natural forces) and some 50 that included human forcings too. Both models were consistent with each other until about 30 years ago. In other words, the industrialization of the world did not have an impact until about 30 years ago. After 30 years, they have done all these models on 6 continents. In every continent, the temperature could only be explained by human models, and was virtually all due to humans. I say virtually just because one continent had all the natural and natural+human models intersect slightly. However the temperature is always only explained by humanity.
Better models will arise but we already know! "
Of course now the models fit perfectly.
So we know it is a problem. The question is, what do we do about it?
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Latter-day Saints do not have an official view on Climate Change. But we believe God has had a plan for all past people on Earth and has a plan for all future ones. That doesn't mean the population on Earth hasn't been decimated before. The Black plague, I believe, cut the Earth's population by 33%.
So it could definitely happen, but we needn't worry that God won't be able to accomplish his plan.
I think we should try to do as much as we reasonably can if we cannot do enough. Emerging technologies or new resources might make up the rest, but it would suck if they didn't, so the more we do the better our chances. Some people think we are not ready for change, but perhaps we have to be ready now. It is a moonshot, but it could be very positive.