The Russian Boogeymen Under Your Bed

[Stanyon]

In your closet, in your head.

After months of very little to no mention of Russia or the Russian investigation and just a little more than two weeks before midterms we now are hearing about the Russian Boogeyman once again. CNN alone had five different and supporting stories featured on their front page, one of them being another indictment of an alleged Russian "troll" that will never be extradited and most likely wouldn't be able to prepare a defense and come to the United States before the midterms were over.
Not that the dredging up of the Russian boogeymen shortly before midterms was any surprise but this seems more than a little blatant.

 

[Estro Felino]

Americans...don't forget THIS is the flag of your First Lady's country

 

[Altfish]

When Russia is interfering in your country's affairs it should be brought up. They are even sending hit squads to my country as well as interfering in elections.

It is a huge concern.

 

[Sunstone]

A few years ago, pre-Trump, conservatives were accusing liberals of being too soft on Russia. Now, post-Trump, most of the same people are accusing liberals of being too tough on Russia.

Their opinions flip-flop and waffle.

 

[Estro Felino]

When Russia is interfering in your country's affairs it should be brought up. They are even sending hit squads to my country as well as interfering in elections.

It is a huge concern.

I knew it...
btw...our Prime Minister will keep asking Trump to lift the sanctions on Russia...
Of course this British hostility towards Putin is saddening...

 

[Altfish]

I knew it...
btw...our Prime Minister will keep asking Trump to lift the sanctions on Russia...
Of course this British hostility towards Putin is saddening...

You're having a laugh?

 

[Father Heathen]

Their opinions flip-flop and waffle.

Republicans in a nut shell. Ethics and principles are tossed aside in favor of blind party loyalty. For them, it isn't the misdeed that's important, but rather who's doing it and what "side" they're on. Some of them are even defending the murder of that journalist at the hands of the Saudis only because of the Trump family's ties with them. Trump could set a basket of kittens on fire and his base would bend over backward trying to spin it as something excusable or even justified. They're automatons.

 

[Father Heathen]

Of course this British hostility towards Putin is saddening...

Never mind that Russia has been poisoning people in the U.K., right?

And again, it's odd how you view Russia so fondly considering their brutal treatment of homosexuals.

 

[Stanyon]

When Russia is interfering in your country's affairs it should be brought up.

But maybe they aren't, the last time an indictment was brought against Russians in Russia they sent a team of lawyers so they could consult with Mueller and make a proper defense, something Mueller apparently didn't count on. From what I understand when one brings an indictment it means that prosecutors are ready to go to court and are confident that their evidence will convince a jury of guilt, in this specific case it seems Mueller was caught with his pant's down. The indictments initially got a lot of play in the media but as things fell apart not so much:
Judge rejects Mueller's request for delay in Russian troll farm case - POLITICO

Then we have new indictments of Russians that will never be extradited over claims of meddling in our midterm elections with what? Funny pictures and supposedly telling their "trolls" to "Paint a picture of Mc Cain as senile and in need of being put in a nursing home" or something to that effect. No matter that it has been concluded that these same tactics had little to no effects in the 2016 elections, the narrative is still that Russians are attempting to cause division and undermine our democracy, our democracy is under attack! fear, fear, and more fear


Though unrelated other than Russians were involved we have the case of Maria Butina who was cast as a Russian spy with links to the NRA and republican politicians and was offering jobs for sex and was up to some espionage. Here is one example of how it was reported though the narrative was repeated many times in other news sources:
Maria Butina, the Russian accused of using sex, lies and guns to infiltrate US politics - CNNPolitics

Then the admission it was all bulls**t:
Government erred in claiming accused Russian spy Maria Butina offered to trade sex for political access - CNNPolitics

So the Justice Department of the United States made formal charges and put a narrative out in the media based on some three year old texts that the judge in the case determined was a joke between friends in less than five minutes?

Seeing a pattern here?

 

[Stanyon]

Republicans in a nut shell. Ethics and principles are tossed aside in favor of blind party loyalty. For them, it isn't the misdeed that's important, but rather who's doing it and what "side" they're on. Some of them are even defending the murder of that journalist at the hands of the Saudis only because of the Trump family's ties with them. Trump could set a basket of kittens on fire and his base would bend over backward trying to spin it as something excusable or even justified. They're automatons.

Your post reminded me of this, don't know why:

 

[Father Heathen]

Your post reminded me of this, don't know why:

If that were Trump your tongue would be in there.

 

[metis]

17 different American intelligence agencies say that Russians hacked into our system, plus some foreign ones such as the Brits and Dutch, and yet some here say the Russians haven't? And we have had indictments since then but supposedly these are all fake?

Oh, how could I forget that Trump knows so much more than all of the above and he would never ever mislead anyone. Ya, r-i-g-h-t.

 

[Estro Felino]

17 different American intelligence agencies say that Russians hacked into our system, .

Meanwhile, because of these paranoiac conspiracy theories, Trump has an excuse not to lift the sanctions on Russia, as we Italians requested.

Trump has to understand that we are on Putin's side

 

[metis]

Meanwhile, because of these paranoiac conspiracy theories, Trump has an excuse not to lift the sanctions on Russia, as we Italians requested.

Trump has to understand that we are on Putin's side

Believe whatever you want to believe but I think it's far more likely that the 17 intelligence agencies are right than Trump is and by a very wide margin.

BTW, I just saw a Pew poll last week, and Trump's approval rating in Italy was 26%, whereas I believe it was 50-some % disapproval. So, I think the "we" you wrote above is more "you" along with a minority of others.

 

[Estro Felino]

Believe whatever you want to believe but I think it's far more likely that the 17 intelligence agencies are right than Trump is and by a very wide margin.

BTW, I just saw a Pew poll last week, and Trump's approval rating in Italy was 26%, whereas I believe it was 50-some % disapproval. So, I think the "we" you wrote above is more "you" along with a minority of others.

The truth is that the Italian PM (popular consensus 60%) is Trump's best friend in Europe.

 

[metis]

The truth is that the Italian PM (popular consensus 60%) is Trump's best friend in Europe.

Is he as dishonest as Trump is?

 

[Stanyon]

17 different American intelligence agencies say that Russians hacked into our system, plus some foreign ones such as the Brits and Dutch, and yet some here say the Russians haven't? And we have had indictments since then but supposedly these are all fake?

Oh, how could I forget that Trump knows so much more than all of the above and he would never ever mislead anyone. Ya, r-i-g-h-t.

Trump had nothing to do with Maria Butina or the indictments against the Russians in the examples I posted.

Mueller issued indictments, Russians sent American Lawyers, Mueller wasn't ready when asked to show evidence and asked for more time which an American judge denied.

The U.S. justice department created a false narrative and filed false charges against Maria Butina which were dismissed.

But no....Trump!

 

[Revoltingest]

Your post reminded me of this, don't know why:

We really need that "Ew" rating.
You'll have to settle for a "Funny".

This should satisfy everyone....

Spoiler: For conservatives

Democrats are hypocrites!

Spoiler: For liberals

Republicans are hypocrites!

Spoiler: For everyone else

 

[Father Heathen]

Meanwhile, because of these paranoiac conspiracy theories, Trump has an excuse not to lift the sanctions on Russia, as we Italians requested.

Trump has to understand that we are on Putin's side

So the findings of multiple intelligence agencies are all "paranoiac conspiracy theories"? I think the more likely case is that people are wallowing in willful ignorance and dismissing anything that conflicts with their goofy cartoon narrative - regardless of how substantiated or credible it is - as "fake news".

 

[Father Heathen]

We really need that "Ew" rating.
You'll have to settle for a "Funny".

This should satisfy everyone....

Spoiler: For conservatives

Democrats are hypocrites!

Spoiler: For liberals

Republicans are hypocrites!

Too bad I don't identify as a democrat, nor do I attempt to excuse or defend any hypocrisy or misdeeds that occur on the left. That's another peeve of mine; the assumption that if you dislike a party/politician, then you must like their opposition.
Principles should always come before partisanship. Enough of this blind loyalty and uncritical hero worship of politicians, regardless of their party affiliations.

This is not directed specifically at you, Rev, but just as in general.