Why can't Muslims criticize Islam

[England my lionheart]

If North Korea says we will destroy the USA then the USA should fire rockets to North Korea, also Hezbollah didn't fire the rockets to the occupied Jolan but Iran did as a retaliation, please read the article.

So hezbollah have nothing to do with Iran?.

That was 4 months ago, I don't see a reason for the continuing attacks on Syria by Israel.

But its OK for every other Tom dick and Harry to do so?, ask hezbollah about its intentions for Israel, also there's another interesting thing, what links Iran Syria assad regime and hezbollah?, no prizes for guessing.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Then logically, if it's not their religion, it can only be that Arabs are less evolved than other human beings, since they do archaic things like cave man.

That's a pretty lowly thing to think of Arabs. Myself, I do blame the religion. Sane and rational people do not normally, usually, or typically become violent without provocation. But the books of Jehovah demand violence for many different things. Even Jesus turned violent at the Temple.

 

[FearGod]

You certainly can't in pakistan.

Pakistani activist on why rape victim-blaming must end

I didn't say we have to blame the victim, but to investigate and the rapist should be punished severely
after proven to be guilty.

 

[FearGod]

Do you realize that by attempting to make a strawman and to mock it you are not helping the reputation of Islaam?

Why I care.

 

[LuisDantas]

Why I care.

I don't think you do, but it is nice to have confirmation.

 

[Notanumber]

The Bible also says that women must submit to their husbands.

And in India, women were supposed to commit suicide on their dead husband's funeral pyre. The practice was outlawed but still exists.

And in early Buddhism, there were misogynistic elements Women in Buddhism - Wikipedia

So if you want to complain about the major religions equally, I'll agree.

Hard to believe that in the eyes of some in the Muslim community in Keighley, her suffering can be reduced to: ‘It takes two to tango.’

Twelve rapists, a 13-year-old girl and a terrifying truth Britain still won't face | Daily Mail Online

 

[Shad]

No need to be shocked, you're angels on earth.

The gray covering Muslim nations is not the white of the legend. That means there is no data being used.

 

[Notanumber]

And in India, women were supposed to commit suicide on their dead husband's funeral pyre.

According to one model, proposed by Yang, taking into account the association of sati with the warrior elite in particular, sati only became really widespread during the Muslim invasions of India, and the practice of sati now acquired an additional meaning as a means to preserve the honour of women whose men had been slain.[85] Sashi states, "the argument is that the practice came into effect during the Islamic invasion of India, to protect their honour from Muslims who were known to commit mass rape on the women of cities that they could capture successfully."

Sati (practice) - Wikipedia

 

[England my lionheart]

I didn't say we have to blame the victim, but to investigate and the rapist should be punished severely
after proven to be guilty.

I'm not saying you did, I'm just showing that rape happens and the difficulty in prosecuting it, under Zina it is punishable under haddud, even this year four Pakistanis were executed in chop chop Square Saudi Arabia although I won't grieve their passing if they were guilty.

 

[FearGod]

Forensic science can help define whether its a forced rape or consented sex but a witness is a good way to go but if 4 people witnessed a rape and did nothing how likely are they to give evidence?.

As far as I know the witnesses were about adultery, but I don't know why rape wasn't mentioned,
Some scholars regard the rapists as a corrupter and some others regard the rapist as a robber
by getting by force something that doesn't belong to him, punishment vary between cutting hands
and death.

 

[FearGod]

I don't think you do, but it is nice to have confirmation.

I discuss religion according to my knowledge, that doesn't mean I care what you think about
Islam or what the others think, simply not my business.

 

[England my lionheart]

As far as I know the witnesses were about adultery, but I don't know why rape wasn't mentioned,
Some scholars regard the rapists as a corrupter and some others regard the rapist as a robber
by getting by force something that doesn't belong to him, punishment vary between cutting hands
and death.

Depends where you are I guess, Zina covers more than adultery in some places,.

 

[LuisDantas]

I discuss religion according to my knowledge, that doesn't mean I care what you think about
Islam or what the others think,

You sure don't give that impression in most of your posts.

simply not my business.

Everyone's beliefs are very much the business of everyone else.

 

[FearGod]

Depends where you are I guess, Zina covers more than adultery in some places,.

Zina is different than adultery and different than rape.
Alzani is the one having sex relationships out of marriage including paying money ..etc,
the rapist isn't zani but criminal.

 

[FearGod]

You sure don't give that impression in most of your posts.

You think so

Everyone's beliefs are very much the business of everyone else.

But not my business of how you think, as simple as it's.

 

[England my lionheart]

Zina is different than adultery and different than rape.
Alzani is the one having sex relationships out of marriage including paying money ..etc,
the rapist isn't zani but criminal.

Under traditional sharia huddud Zina covers even beastiality, like I said it depends where you are and culture you are in.

 

[FearGod]

Under traditional sharia huddud Zina covers even beastiality, like I said it depends where you are and culture you are in.

Beastiality
The animal should admit that zina had occurred.

 

[LuisDantas]

You think so



But not my business of how you think, as simple as it's.

Hardly.

I don't even think you truly think so, if I can be so frank.

At the very least, you seem to care about what others think and believe plenty often enough to make your claim seem incoherent. Even if those others are usually Israel / "The West" / Disbelievers.

 

[FearGod]

Hardly.

I don't even think you truly think so, if I can be so frank.

At the very least, you seem to care about what others think and believe plenty often enough to make your claim seem incoherent. Even if those others are usually Israel / "The West" / Disbelievers.

I have my views and my own opinions, it may go against yours and I defend mines,
but at the end I have nothing to do of how you want to think.

 

[LuisDantas]

I have my views and my own opinions, it may go against yours and I defend mines,
but at the end I have nothing to do of how you want to think.

That is neither a very realistic view nor a very religious one, though.

Nor is it particularly compatible with a discussion forum.