Monotheism and Polytheism

[Fool]

Is monotheism incompatible with polytheism?

is the universe incompatible with it's natural forms and actions, its phenomena?


if one looks far enough from either perspective, will the observer discover the other?

if we observe a group of bees will we discover the hive, or do we discover the hive before the bees?

 

[shunyadragon]

Is monotheism incompatible with polytheism?

is the universe incompatible with it's natural forms and actions, its phenomena?


if one looks far enough from either perspective, will the observer discover the other?

if we observe a group of bees will we discover the hive, or do we discover the hive before the bees?

It is not a matter of on incompatible with the other, because it is matter of the logic, because the choice is a matter of wadding into the fallacy of the 'undistributed middle.'

Since the belief in God or God(s) is matter of theological and philosophical assumptions both cannot be true. Either there is only one God, multiple Gods or no Gods.

 

[Fool]

It is not a matter of on incompatible with the other, because it is matter of the logic, because the choice is a matter of wadding into the fallacy of the 'undistributed middle.'

Since the belief in God or God(s) is matter of theological and philosophical assumptions both cannot be true. Either there is only one God, multiple Gods or no Gods.

so there can't be one love, manifesting in different forms of love and no love; when being abusive?

there can't be one idea, being portrayed/conveyed in different forms of the idea, and no idea when its not realized?


Metaphor - Wikipedia - the transfer of an idea from one word to another word, an no metaphor when the words are incompatible in action?



“Unity can only be manifested by the Binary.
Unity itself and the idea of Unity are already two.” - Freemasonry

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Is monotheism incompatible with polytheism?

Not necessarily. God could be One while the gods are merely a manifestation of The Divine.

if one looks far enough from either perspective, will the observer discover the other?

I believe that if you look far enough into either perspective, the observer will transcend both of them and come to terms with Monism.

if we observe a group of bees will we discover the hive, or do we discover the hive before the bees?

I suppose it could go one way or another.

 

[Fool]

Not necessarily. God could be One while the gods are merely a manifestation of The Divine.



I believe that if you look far enough into either perspective, the observer will transcend both of them and come to terms with Monism.


I suppose it could go one way or another.

"It followed from the special theory of relativity that mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing -- a somewhat unfamiliar conception for the average mind.

 

[shunyadragon]

I do not believe this is relevant to the intent of the thread, nor does it respond to my post.

. . . so there can't be one love, manifesting in different forms of love and no love; when being abusive?

Regardless of whether One God, more than one God, nor no Gods exists it is very obvious in the human world that love exists, and, of course, there is not only one kind of love.

there can't be one idea, being portrayed/conveyed in different forms of the idea, and no idea when its not realized?

True, but does not address the intent of the thread.

Metaphor - Wikipedia - the transfer of an idea from one word to another word, an no metaphor when the words are incompatible in action?

The question as to whether there is One God, more than one God, or no Gods is not a matter of being interpreted by metaphors.



“Unity can only be manifested by the Binary.
Unity itself and the idea of Unity are already two.” - Freemasonry[/QUOTE]

 

[LuisDantas]

Is monotheism incompatible with polytheism?

Not at all. Except when the specific conceptions of either or both make it so. Theism is really very free-style in nature.

is the universe incompatible with it's natural forms and actions, its phenomena?

I don't know if the question makes sense, but I would guess that if it does then the answer must be "no, it is not incompatible with those".

 

[shunyadragon]

Not necessarily. God could be One while the gods are merely a manifestation of The Divine.

God being One would be in conflict with the polytheism of gods being manifestations of the Divine unless you are describing a version of Henotheism. I believe this is a violation of the fallacy of the excluded middle by the definition of Monotheism and Polytheism.

I believe that if you look far enough into either perspective, the observer will transcend both of them and come to terms with Monism.


I suppose it could go one way or another.

In both Monotheism and Monism only one supreme Deity exists.

 

[Fool]

True, but does not address the intent of the thread.

metaphorically it does as pantheism or panentheism

 

[shunyadragon]

metaphorically it does

If you are taking that route you are shmooozing all beliefs without distinction, which does not reflect the definitions of Monotheism and Polytheism.

Kind of making up your own definitions and rules on the topic.

. . . is the universe incompatible with it's natural forms and actions, its phenomena?

In terms of the Monotheistic God of the Baha'i Faith the nature of our physical existence, natural forms, actions, and phenomena reflect the attributes of God with no incompatibility nor conflicts. It is the human perspective that creates incompatibility and conflicts.

 

[Fool]

If you are taking that route you are shmooozing all beliefs without distinction, which does not reflect the definitions of Monotheism and Polytheism.

ideas, like houses, come in different forms based on those minds that express them as they will in relationship to their environment that supplies the resources to do so.

IKind of making up your own definitions and rules on the topic.

truth is singular. it's versions are mistruths. energy doesn't have an exact form of matter. the matter can be transformed - vishnu

 

[shunyadragon]

ideas, like houses, come in different forms based on those minds that express them as they will in relationship to their environment that supplies the resources to do so.

The existence of God or Gods are not superficial ideas of fallible human beings. The Question that is relevant to the title of your thread is: Is their One God - Monotheism, more than one God - Polytheism, or no Gods. There is not illusive vagaries nor undifferentiated middle in the possible choices.

. . . truth is singular. it's versions are mistruths. energy doesn't have an exact form of matter. the matter can be transformed - vishnu

If the Monotheistic God exists, truth resides only with God, and not human egocentric mystic tofu constructs like above, which abound with conflicts, contradictions, and highly variable claims of 'truth' made by fallible humans.

Your reference reminds me of a very sophisticated version of a 'Course of Miracles' with fantastic special effects.

 

[Fool]

The existence of God or Gods are not superficial ideas of fallible human beings. The Question that is relevant to the title of your thread is: Is their One God - Monotheism, more than one God - Polytheism, or no Gods.

or no gods would be atheism.


pluralism, diversity doesn't have to be adverse to love; especially if love makes all things as one.


that is exactly what a union is, or uniting does.

If the Monotheistic God exists, truth resides only with God, and not human egocentric mystic tofu constructs like above, which abound with conflicts, contradictions, and highly variable claims of 'truth' made by fallible humans.

not if there is this pansychism. one uses the resources in their environment to manifest an idea. form follows function and available resources.

 

[shunyadragon]

metaphorically it does as pantheism or panentheism

The question is Monotheism or Polytheism, You are avoiding your own choice of topic. Nonetheless: (1) Pantheism is variations of our physical existence is God, and roughly equivalent to atheism. (2) Panentheism is a variation of Monotheism.

 

[shunyadragon]

or no gods would be atheism.

True so what?!?!!!? Based on your original post IF Monotheism and Polytheism are false the logical conclusion is atheism. The resolution of the this question is based on philosophical assumptions.

pluralism, diversity doesn't have to be adverse to love; especially if love makes all things as one.

Never even remotely indicated that pluralism and diversity is adverse to love. Pluralism and diversity is the nature of love from the unbiased view of all fallible humans. The reality is there are multiple definitions of love from the human perspective.

IF love makes ALL things ONE is more hypothetical from the mystic tofu of the 'Course of Miracles' and your foolishly idealistic reference.

It does not remotely address your question whether Monotheism or Polytheism is true and do the conflict.

that is exactly what a union is, or uniting does.

From the fallible human perspective it would be a nice and fuzzy warm concept, but not remotely reality, and does not address your questions at the beginning of the thread, which you are classically avoiding.

not if there is this pansychism

Jumping around like fresh frog legs on a hot griddle to avoid addressing your original questions.
Back to the 'Course in Miracles,' and nice warm fuzzy wuzzy coincidences.

 

[Fool]

The question is Monotheism or Polytheism, You are avoiding your own choice of topic. Nonetheless: (1) Pantheism is variations of our physical existence is God, and roughly equivalent to atheism. (2) Panentheism is a variation of Monotheism.

theism often sees god as something separate from self. atheism, includes buddhism somewhat as do a lot of mystics; which doesn't necessarily see itself as separate from the whole. god is obviously an ambiguous term, ignostic. for some christians it literally means love, or god is love, or god = love.

in hebrew god is a verb first and a thing second.

case in point:


2361 GOD IS NOT WHAT WE THINK IT IS (Print)


so then it's a point of perspective in that god is ambiguous based on a thing but not necessarily as an action

 

[Fool]

True so what?!?!!!?



It does not remotely address your question whether Monotheism or Polytheism is true and do the conflict.

i didn't ask if either was true, i asked if they were incompatible

 

[Fool]

Back to the 'Course in Miracles,' and nice warm fuzzy wuzzy coincidences.

sorry but i'm not versed in a course in miracles

 

[shunyadragon]

theism often sees god as something separate from self. atheism, includes buddhism somewhat as do a lot of mystics; which doesn't necessarily see itself as separate from the whole. god is obviously an ambiguous term, ignostic. for some christians it literally means love, or god is love, or god = love.

in hebrew god is a verb first and a thing second.

case in point:


2361 GOD IS NOT WHAT WE THINK IT IS (Print)


so then it's a point of perspective in that god is ambiguous based on thing but not as an action

First - Buddhism is not necessarily atheist. Second, the assertion that 'theism often sees God . . . does not define theism. Third, how 'some' Christians define theism does not define theism, nor monotheism. Fourth, this jumping around does not address your original questions. Fifth the question of the ambiguity only raises the fog index, Fifth in Judaism the words for God are both verbs and nouns. Sixth, mystics? that is shooozing the subject beyond imagination. Mysitcs can believe anything under the sun in transcending ambiguity.

 

[shunyadragon]

i didn't ask if either was true, i asked if they were incompatible

. . . and I responded, they are incompatible by definition, which you have ignored the problem of the 'undifferentiated middle' by definition. Asking if they are compatible does bring to question whether they are true or false.