rrobs
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So the whole Bible falls to pi
Here is the first paragraph of one of my posts:
Have you considered that things changed after the resurrection and ascension? That what was true before Jesus' death and resurrection is no longer true? Nobody was born again until the day of Pentecost, so, absolutely things changed in a major way.
Many make the mistake of not seeing to whom God is speaking and when He says it. Here's a verse that will explain what I just said:
Lev 4:2,
In the Old Testament there was only Jew or Gentile. God chose Israel (the Jews) as his chosen people. Romans says that at that time the Gentiles were without God and without Hope. They were flat out of luck.
Jesus came for Israel. He did not come for the Gentiles. Read Matt 15:24. So whatever Jesus said in the Gospels, he said to Israel. The Gospels are addressed to Israel. Always keep that in mind.
The Church of God did not come into existence until after Jesus died and rose from the dead. That resurrection changed everything in a huge way. Grace replacing the law is but one glaring example of what Christ accomplished by his death and resurrection. Anyone born again of God's spirit belongs to the Church of God. It is a church that God Himself is building, not mere men.
The Church of God is made of both Jew and Gentile. In fact, in the age of grace, God says there is no Jew or Gentile, but that Christ is all and in all.
Col 3:11,
Now follow closely; when Paul said he counted all his theological knowledge as dung, to whom was he speaking. To whom did he address that letter?
Philippians! Now it gets really good and the contradiction you saw goes poof!
Phil 1:1,
So we are left with two choices:
It's imperative to keep the times and people straight when researching the Bible. Doing just that one thing will clear up hundreds of so called contradictions in the Bible. I hope you can see some of this. It'll open up the Bible in a big way to you if you just do that one thing.
So the whole Bible falls to pi
Never heard that beforePaul doesn’t speak in Ephesians because Paul didn’t write Ephesians.
I would never thinking of anybody who studies the Bible anything other than a workman of God's word, and that of course is a good thing! I'm sure God is glad when anybody opens the book.I don't want to argue with you about the bible. You have probably studied it much more than I have. However, Paul states that "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved" and Jesus states that "Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only those who do the will of my father in heaven." For me, a mere heretical and faithless layman (I called myself that so you don't have to), this seems like a contradiction. Paul taught salvation by faith alone, while Jesus taught salvation by both faith and works.
Here is the first paragraph of one of my posts:
Have you considered that things changed after the resurrection and ascension? That what was true before Jesus' death and resurrection is no longer true? Nobody was born again until the day of Pentecost, so, absolutely things changed in a major way.
Lev 4:2,
Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD [concerning things] which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them:
God was not speaking to anybody and everybody. What follows about the commandments of the Lord is meant for Israel. It's like the address on a letter. A letter addressed to you announcing your won a sweepstakes worth $1,000,000 would mean you and only you would reap the benefits of $1,000,000. You could show your letter to all your friends and they would read it with the understanding they weren't going to get $1,000,000. The letter was addressed to you, not to the friends to whom you showed it. Very simple. The Bible is no different. Basically, at various times God address or deals with one of three groups of people; Jew, Gentile, Church of God.
In the Old Testament there was only Jew or Gentile. God chose Israel (the Jews) as his chosen people. Romans says that at that time the Gentiles were without God and without Hope. They were flat out of luck.
Jesus came for Israel. He did not come for the Gentiles. Read Matt 15:24. So whatever Jesus said in the Gospels, he said to Israel. The Gospels are addressed to Israel. Always keep that in mind.
The Church of God did not come into existence until after Jesus died and rose from the dead. That resurrection changed everything in a huge way. Grace replacing the law is but one glaring example of what Christ accomplished by his death and resurrection. Anyone born again of God's spirit belongs to the Church of God. It is a church that God Himself is building, not mere men.
The Church of God is made of both Jew and Gentile. In fact, in the age of grace, God says there is no Jew or Gentile, but that Christ is all and in all.
Col 3:11,
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond [nor] free: but Christ [is] all, and in all.
Now follow closely; when Paul said he counted all his theological knowledge as dung, to whom was he speaking. To whom did he address that letter?
Philippians! Now it gets really good and the contradiction you saw goes poof!
Phil 1:1,
Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints [born again believers] in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
Jesus said something very true to Israel in the age of law. Paul says something quite different to the saints (1 Cor 6:11) in this age of grace. Different time, different people.
So we are left with two choices:
- There is a contradiction in God's word
- Things changed when Christ rose from the dead.
It's imperative to keep the times and people straight when researching the Bible. Doing just that one thing will clear up hundreds of so called contradictions in the Bible. I hope you can see some of this. It'll open up the Bible in a big way to you if you just do that one thing.