A rare occurence from God

[kjw47]

You know people that are centuries old?

No, do you. Can you read English, I didn't say that in my post--I said 99% living now were beaten centuries ago by satan. They didn't have to live back then to be beat now. Jesus said satan is the ruler of this world--look at it.

 

[kjw47]

Well, I have never been to a church where I had to pay to listen. Which religion do you know of that demands it's members to pay for teaching?

The ones that do not know Jesus and demand a tithe.




Are you trying to say that your "real teachers" don't get paid to teach? I have had a few witnesses tell me your "real teachers" make a meager $150 a month, how do you suppose they can afford those expensive suits and jewelry they wear? I guess their god gives it to them?

They work at jobs or have a little business.




Your "real teachers claim to be led by the Holy Spirit, and they teach the wrong things all the time.

When its the proper time they teach what God wills known.




You don't visit jw broadcasting very often, do you? Well, you should! Then you would know that it isn't Jesus and the Holy Spirit any more, it's the jw trinity, God, Jesus and the faithful slave. The Holy Spirit doesn't lead them anymore, it's Jesus and the slave guides all the rank and file. The slave has been promoted to the place of the Holy Spirit. I'm surprised you didn't know that, since everything you say you believe to be 100% fact.

You are wrong. And at Luke 10:16--Gods will--if one rejects the teachers Jesus appoints they are rejecting Jesus and God as well, and vica versa.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

The ones that do not know Jesus and demand a tithe.

Provide a religion that "DEMANDS" a tithe.

Your "real teachers claim to be led by the Holy Spirit, and they teach the wrong things all the time.

When its the proper time they teach what God wills known.

You can believe that God, the God of Truth, Who does not lie, Who does not deceive, will let His ONLY "real teachers" teach His ONLY real church things that are not true, just because He isn't ready for them to know the truth yet, if you want to, I won't. If any man comes to me and says he was appointed by Jesus Himself, I call him a liar!

 

[savagewind]

Now it is occurring to me what the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses is doing to people is they are making them like children. And, the Bible is saying that a person must become like a child to get the Kingdom of God. Though, I think Matthew 18:3 means hearts, not minds.

It is written that to keep asking for wisdom is God's will. The JWs are not taught to ask for wisdom. In fact, it is against the will of the governing body that they do that. They are being taught to "wait on Jehovah" for food at the proper time from the governing body.

And then, I thought, why should the governing body ask for wisdom as they believe that Jehovah will only allow it at the proper time. So, they are all making James 1:5 a worn out point.

The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses is not about growing up Ephesians 4:15. It is all about asking for the patience to remain as children.

I think @kjw47 taught me this. He went on and on talking to me and I think some wisdom was going back and forth and then when I said that I was previously a JW, he shut me off. Why did he do that? I think it is because he is told that the worse ones are they who knew the JW way and left and that we are bad and can make JWs sick if they listen to us. It doesn't make sense! He was listening for a long time and he was OK but then suddenly he remembered what mommy told him and he shut me off. He can't think for himself! Can anyone imagine if the JWs were successful on Earth doing that?

Someone made a movie about it. Make them all into children.
But, not children who trust God unreservedly. Change them into children who are afraid to think for themselves. And many people are saying that they do no harm, just leave them alone.

 

[savagewind]

James 1:5 Matthew 7:8 The point to ponder @kjw @Vee @Deeje @Hockeycowboy is this.

Why ask for wisdom while you believe that it will be given at the right time and that it won't come to YOU but that it comes to someone else and then to you?

 

[savagewind]

I did a little research. I understand that to some people wisdom is synonymous with understanding and I wondered how true or not true that is so I looked it up. Understanding is not on the list. I am not surprised and because you can not see this post, you are not surprised.

I found great synonyms for "wisdom" on the new Thesaurus.com!

 

[savagewind]

Understanding is what the Jehovah's Witnesses are being taught to do. They all must stand under the mindfulness of the governing body who in turn stand under their perception of Jesus Christ.

But, Jesus Christ says that his disciples are to become LIKE him. Is Jesus standing under Jehovah, or next to Jehovah?

How can the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses be like Jesus while standing under him?

 

[Muffled]

I of course expect you to reject Jesus truth--all who are standing in opposition falsely reason daily.--Luke 10:16 says you are in error.

I believe you can't handle the truth.

 

[Muffled]

2Cor 4:4--is why--Your god is blinding you.
Fact--no matter what any man with a white collar teaches the opposite--1Cor 8:6--There is one God to all the Father. Everyone teaching a trinity calls Jesus a liar-- John 20:17, Rev 3:12

I believe I am speaking the truth in Jesus and you are falsely accusing me which is what the devil does.

 

[Muffled]

You believe translations from Catholicism--your eternal life is being placed in Catholicism translating do you understand this reality--No originals left when the protestants translated--only Catholicism translating remained. So either Catholicism is correct--or not one of them is.

I don't think there is shred of evidence to support that. My Bible says the original documents were consulted and by the way Jesus would tell me if something were mistranslated or misinterpreted.

 

[kjw47]

Provide a religion that "DEMANDS" a tithe.






You can believe that God, the God of Truth, Who does not lie, Who does not deceive, will let His ONLY "real teachers" teach His ONLY real church things that are not true, just because He isn't ready for them to know the truth yet, if you want to, I won't. If any man comes to me and says he was appointed by Jesus Himself, I call him a liar!

Then in your reasoning' how do you explain these realities? Daniel 12:4--Truth will become abundant here in these last days--And how do you explain Gods own angels didn't know? 1Peter 1:12-- truth is now abundant, it took correction.

 

[kjw47]

I believe you can't handle the truth.

I just showed you how Jesus felt about one listening to his teachers-Luke 10:16--don't you believe Jesus? If he required it then, he requires it now.

 

[kjw47]

I believe I am speaking the truth in Jesus and you are falsely accusing me which is what the devil does.

If you would only believe Jesus--John 17:1-6,26--100% for sure teaches--The one who sent me= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD. Verse 6=YHWH(Jehovah) 26= YHWH(Jehovah)

Jesus teaches his Father is the only true God. Your teachers teach the Father , son and Holy ghost ae God--We all must choose who we believe. Jesus reminds you--John 20:17, Rev 3:12, 1Cor 15:24-28( Paul)
John 4:22-24 is the bottom line reality

 

[kjw47]

I don't think there is shred of evidence to support that. My Bible says the original documents were consulted and by the way Jesus would tell me if something were mistranslated or misinterpreted.

Jesus would not if you are serving a non existent trinity. Its 100% fact when Jesus attended the synagogues and temples was taught, served and Worshipped, a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah)--not one of them ever refuted that God. They taught it, you will not believe them because of a error capitol G God in the last line of John 1:1.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

If you would only believe Jesus

Are you trying to claim that your "real teachers" are Jesus? Because you're not believing Jesus, you believe the men you call your "real teachers".

Have you visited jw broadcasting yet and watched the video where your beloved teacher, Lösch, puts the slave in place of the Holy Spirit? Rank and file witnesses are supposed to fully trust God, Jesus and the slave, that's the witness trinity.

 

[savagewind]

True, but being in "the truth" just means they can't see the truth.

 

[savagewind]

Each one of us is who we are but we can not see what we are because we can't get outside of ourselves to look at ourselves. So it is with the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. Unless they get out of themselves they won't be able to see themselves.

 

[1robin]

No.

Are you hinting at something deeper? A lot of us dont believe the bible has any spiritual truth at all.

How on Earth did you determine that not one spiritual truth exists in the 750,000 words making up the bible?

 

[Hawkins]

At Jesus baptism, God spoke from heaven( very rare) and said--This is my son the beloved in whom I am well pleased--LISTEN TO HIM.

1)Matt 6:33-- Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added. ( sustenance, covering, spirituality)Matt 6)-- The Father would provide those things.
2)Matt 5:5-- Happy are the meek for they will inherit the EARTH. ( Psalm 37:9-11,29)-- this has to be to the great multitude.
3)The Lords prayer--Hallowed be thy(Father) name ( YHWH(Jehovah)
4) Jesus teaches he has a God-his Father- John 20:17, Rev 3:12-- so does Paul- 2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 15:24-28, 1Cor8:6--Peter- 1Peter1:3--John at Rev 1:6--- One of the most taught teachings in the nt--Jesus has a God, his Father.
5) Jesus clearly teaches--at John 17: 1-6,26-- The one who sent him=Father( John 5:30) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--Verse 6= YHWH(Jehovah) 26= YHWH(Jehovah)
6) Making John 4:22-24 an everyday accomplishment in a true followers life.

Do you believe Jesus?

It has a very significant indication here. I ever experienced something figuratively very similar to the situation. It is a description of His Trinity verifiable for later humans. No where else ever described the shape of the Holy Spirit. To put it another way, the only location where the shape of the Holy Spirit is described, it is the same location where God the Father, God and Son and God the Holy Spirit all appeared at the same time. That's the significance.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Its 100% fact when Jesus attended the synagogues and temples was taught, served and Worshipped, a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah)--not one of them ever refuted that God.

Please provide the "100% fact", from scripture, not your wordy opinion. Just post scripture!!