Did you see God?

[ArtieE]

I could make an audio recording, and there would be wisdom to be found in the conversation.

Excellent. Make audio recordings and post them online. If there is, as you say, wisdom to be found you have a duty to share that wisdom with the whole world. Here are some instructions: How to Upload an Audio Recording to YouTube Please post the links here afterward. I also strongly urge everybody else talking with God to record their conversations as an audio recording or at least as a written transcript and post them online.

 

[Aupmanyav]

There's no limit to what humanity can learn from conversations with a god. You must immediately contact the authorities and tell them you have this ability. Then you will probably be taken into custody and our greatest minds will tell you which questions to ask. We could learn so much!

Why should I do that? It is a personal friendship. What is to be learnt has already been indicated in our scriptures. That is eternal truth. And why should authorities be involved in this? Why should I be taken into custody? Have I done anything criminal? If anyone asks a question, I will certainly reply.

 

[james bond]

So... where's the evidence again?

The people who say that there is no evidence are of course referring to objective, rational evidence, not the personal experiences or testimony of the 2 billion people who believe in the Xian God, or even the beauty and complexity that people say points to God in nature. Those may be reasons to believe in God, but they don't rise to the level of evidence.

So if you have some of that objective, rational evidence for the existence of God, then by all means, present it to the world, and if you don't, then you haven't really done anything here but redefine "evidence."

One evidence is that we are like God. We have a conscience, thoughts and emotions. Another is we admire perfection. If someone achieves perfection in their work, sports or lives, then it usually becomes news. We also can differentiate between the spirit and nature despite all the rantings of materialists. The material world is finite and temporal. If that is the case, then things do not really matter. Once can't take the material world with them when they die. There is no one to judge one's behavior in life. You can be one of the worst criminals in the world and not be in prison if you're not caught.

 

[james bond]

Excellent. Make audio recordings and post them online. If there is, as you say, wisdom to be found you have a duty to share that wisdom with the whole world. Here are some instructions: How to Upload an Audio Recording to YouTube Please post the links here afterward. I also strongly urge everybody else talking with God to record their conversations as an audio recording or at least as a written transcript and post them online.

This is one of the shortcomings of atheist thinking. They can't figure out that God is spiritual and not physical.

 

[Aupmanyav]

That is good to hear... God is good.

Yeah, Hindu Gods and Goddesses are nice and not vindictive. They get angry only when a devotee is inconvenienced and not because someone does not worship them.

I sometimes think it would be nice to hear voices then I realize that they would most likely be evil ones.

It will depend on the 'samskara'* of the person. The voices that I hear are not evil.

* Samskara: Innate inclination, bringing up, education, religious belief, life experiences, etc.

 

[robocop (actually)]

I have heard it said by some people that they would believe in God if there was only some evidence.


I propose that there is evidence.


God is here with us, on the earth this very day.

God had crossed my path numerous times in the past and spoke with me as well.
Though God never said what I expected God to say, and God didn’t look like I expected either.
So I was unaware. But now I can see in looking back, that God did intersect my life at certain times.
Something changed in my thoughts this morning. I only came upon this realization earlier today while walking on a treadmill. Ok, sorry, I know I’m odd. I always heard a different guitar player.

I’m not talking of the spiritual. Of course I believe God is everywhere spiritually.


But I mean literally. I mean literally seeing and talking to God.


I submit to those who say there is no evidence:


God has walked right up to you, sometime, somewhere in your life, and said hello. But you missed it.

Did you expect God to have a really long beard and a long white robe and a golden staff in hand? Perhaps you need to start looking more closely.

God will come again to you some day, somewhere. Maybe even today or tomorrow.

Just be ready next time.

I have seen many UFOs and I do not say for certain but I think I've seen an Alien. Those are my Gods.

 

[QuestioningMind]

I have heard it said by some people that they would believe in God if there was only some evidence.


I propose that there is evidence.


God is here with us, on the earth this very day.

God had crossed my path numerous times in the past and spoke with me as well.
Though God never said what I expected God to say, and God didn’t look like I expected either.
So I was unaware. But now I can see in looking back, that God did intersect my life at certain times.
Something changed in my thoughts this morning. I only came upon this realization earlier today while walking on a treadmill. Ok, sorry, I know I’m odd. I always heard a different guitar player.

I’m not talking of the spiritual. Of course I believe God is everywhere spiritually.


But I mean literally. I mean literally seeing and talking to God.


I submit to those who say there is no evidence:


God has walked right up to you, sometime, somewhere in your life, and said hello. But you missed it.

Did you expect God to have a really long beard and a long white robe and a golden staff in hand? Perhaps you need to start looking more closely.

God will come again to you some day, somewhere. Maybe even today or tomorrow.

Just be ready next time.

You sound like my older brother who claims that the aliens in the mother ship orbiting earth talk to him all of the time. He keeps telling me that I need to be 'ready' when they reveal themselves to humanity - which surprisingly has been imminent for the past 20 years. It's amazing what people are capable of deluding themselves into believing is real and how if they start searching for 'signs' of their belief that they always inevitably find them.

 

[ArtieE]

Why should I do that? It is a personal friendship. What is to be learnt has already been indicated in our scriptures. That is eternal truth. And why should authorities be involved in this? Why should I be taken into custody? Have I done anything criminal? If anyone asks a question, I will certainly reply.

Seriously? You are talking with a GOD! A GOD APPARENTLY CAPABLE OF CREATING A WHOLE UNIVERSE AND LIFE! What is to be learnt?! The cure for cancer! How to make universes and life! Everything he knows that we don't know! Get a grip and get as much useful information out of him as you can and share it with the rest of humanity. You have a responsibility on behalf of the whole human race.

 

[ArtieE]

This is one of the shortcomings of atheist thinking. They can't figure out that God is spiritual and not physical.

Is that a joke? Gerry said and I quote: "I could make an audio recording, and there would be wisdom to be found in the conversation." The question is: Why don't people who talk with God make audio recordings or transcripts of their conversations and post them online for all humanity? What gives them the right to keep potential important information for themselves alone?

 

[InChrist]

Was Jesus God when he walked the earth?

Yes, Jesus was God... but His Godhood was purposefully lowered to human level and restrained to the limitations of the flesh while He lived on earth.

 

[syo]

we can see god in our dreams, when we are asleep and the mind rests.

 

[Axe Elf]

One evidence is that we are like God. We have a conscience, thoughts and emotions.

Once again, you're talking about subjective personal interpretations that give you a reason to believe, but you are NOT talking about evidence in the usual sense of being objective.

For this to be evidence, you would first have to demonstrate what God is "like." You would have to show that God has a conscience, thoughts and emotions. And then you would have to show that humans are "like" God in those respects. And then you might have some evidence that God exists--except oops, it would really be kind of redundant, once you have already objectively demonstrated that God has a conscience, thoughts and emotions. How much more real would God have to be, once you had demonstrated that?

So can you demonstrate that God has a conscience, thoughts and emotions without begging the question (that is, without assuming that God exists to prove that He exists, by appealing to Bible stories or other claims of God's existence)?

Another is we admire perfection. If someone achieves perfection in their work, sports or lives, then it usually becomes news.

Whether or not humans admire perfection would not be evidence of God even if it were true. It could just as easily be argued that humans evolved the admiration for perfection as a survival advantage. But in reality, we don't always admire perfection. Many people prefer the "imperfect" tones created by traditional musical instruments over the pure sine wave tones generated by synthesizers, for instance. Our processing of the visual field works better when there are "imperfections" in the field of view, rather than a perfect monochromatic display.

So again, not evidence.

We also can differentiate between the spirit and nature despite all the rantings of materialists.

Please demonstrate the existence of "spirit" (especially as it exists apart from nature) before you try to use it as evidence of God.

The material world is finite and temporal. If that is the case, then things do not really matter. Once can't take the material world with them when they die. There is no one to judge one's behavior in life. You can be one of the worst criminals in the world and not be in prison if you're not caught.

So your argument is that life has no meaning if there is no God? This may come as some surprise to those who don't believe in God; it certainly hasn't been a very convincing "evidence" if it could even be considered as such.

 

[MonkeyFire]

Faith comes predisposed with ideas and theories that it can make evidential.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yet, I have read that Jesus said: “anyone who has seen me has seen the father.” He said this while he was walking the earth, talking to the people, and the father refers to God.

I don’t take a lot of the Bible literally, but this one seemed to make sense.

I agree this one makes sense because Jesus was a perfect mirror image of God, Jesus manifested God on earth.

John 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yeah, Hindu Gods and Goddesses are nice and not vindictive. They get angry only when a devotee is inconvenienced and not because someone does not worship them.

Sounds good...

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I have heard it said by some people that they would believe in God if there was only some evidence.


I propose that there is evidence.


God is here with us, on the earth this very day.

God had crossed my path numerous times in the past and spoke with me as well.
Though God never said what I expected God to say, and God didn’t look like I expected either.
So I was unaware. But now I can see in looking back, that God did intersect my life at certain times.
Something changed in my thoughts this morning. I only came upon this realization earlier today while walking on a treadmill. Ok, sorry, I know I’m odd. I always heard a different guitar player.

I’m not talking of the spiritual. Of course I believe God is everywhere spiritually.


But I mean literally. I mean literally seeing and talking to God.


I submit to those who say there is no evidence:


God has walked right up to you, sometime, somewhere in your life, and said hello. But you missed it.

Did you expect God to have a really long beard and a long white robe and a golden staff in hand? Perhaps you need to start looking more closely.

God will come again to you some day, somewhere. Maybe even today or tomorrow.

Just be ready next time.

What did you see exactly and how did you know it was God?

"Did you see God?"
Just one? I see a whole lots of them and Goddesses too.

Good point: "seeing God" - if someone could reasonably say that this happened to them - should lead them to believe that at least one god exists. "Seeing God" certainly wouldn't give a person any reason to conclude that no more than one god exists.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

This is one of the shortcomings of atheist thinking. They can't figure out that God is spiritual and not physical.

@Gerry talked about seeing and hearing things. Sure sounds to me like he was describing something physical.

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

Is that a joke? Gerry said and I quote: "I could make an audio recording, and there would be wisdom to be found in the conversation." The question is: Why don't people who talk with God make audio recordings or transcripts of their conversations and post them online for all humanity? What gives them the right to keep potential important information for themselves alone?

Because all truth and knowledge is available now, but people like you refuse to see.
Even if I played the recording and introduced you to God, you still would not see or hear.
You need to ask someone other than me for help. I don’t have the power to cure blindness and deafness.

 

[blü 2]

I have heard it said by some people that they would believe in God if there was only some evidence.

Partly. It would be a very good start if you could give me a definition of 'God' so that if one crosses my path and speaks to me, I'll be able to tell for certain it was a God and not just a fellow human or the product of my imagination.

Until you can define a real god for me in that fashion, unfortunately I won't know what we're talking about here.

But once we have the definition, we'll be able to test all claims and if you're right we'll be able to examine an example of a real God. (By real I mean one with objective existence, not imaginary.)

Then ─ for the first time ─ the existence of gods will be a matter of examinable evidence and not merely faith / imagination.

 

[ArtieE]

Because all truth and knowledge is available now, but people like you refuse to see.
Even if I played the recording and introduced you to God, you still would not see or hear.
You need to ask someone other than me for help. I don’t have the power to cure blindness and deafness.

If as you say "all truth and knowledge is available now" post all the recordings you have on YouTube!
How to Upload an Audio Recording to YouTube
You have no right to keep this "truth and knowledge" all to yourself.