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Should Human Sexuality be Part of Sex-Ed Classes?

Skwim

Veteran Member
Abstinence-only sex education amounts to little more than "Outside of marriage, don't do it." So the education I'm speaking of is comprehensive sex education.

Comprehensive sex education (CSE) is a sex education instruction method that aims to give students the knowledge, attitudes, skills and values to make appropriate and healthy choices in their sexual lives. The intention is that this understanding will prevent students from contracting sexually transmitted infections in the future, including HIV and HPV. CSE is also designed with the intention of reducing teenage and unwanted pregnancies, as well as lowering rates of domestic and sexual violence, thus contributing to a healthier society, both physically and mentally. Comprehensive sex education ultimately promotes sexual abstinence as the safest sexual choice for young people. However, CSE curriculums and teachers are still committed to teaching students about topics connected to future sexual activity, such as age of consent, safe sex, birth control, abortion, and use of condoms.
source:Wikipedia

But beyond these "nuts and bolts" of sex, lies the matter of sexuality, "the quality of being sexual, or the way people experience and express themselves as sexual beings. This involves biological, erotic, physical, emotional, social, or spiritual feelings and behaviors."
source:Wikipedia

Personally, I feel human sexuality as defined here is an important component in creating a healthy sexual-self, and in forging interpersonal relationships, and therefore deserves to be seriously looked at.

So, should school children* be taught how best to sexually express themselves, or should this be left to "on the job" experience, or maybe taking one's cues from internet porn?---I can't see more than a handful of parents seriously taking on the task.

*I'm thinking of junior high and senior high students.

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Skwim

Veteran Member
Please just get laid already.

Topics on sex really bother you don't they.
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Must be tough.
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You have my condolences
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pearl

Well-Known Member
give students the knowledge, attitudes, skills and values to make appropriate and healthy choices in their sexual lives.

Otherwise they learn it off the street. It would certainly save a lot of heartache not to mention fewer abortions. Especially to concentrate on each person's worth often compromised with the mistaken idea 'that's what expected of me.'
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Since when did actual knowledge constitute a dange
Topics on sex really bother you don't they.
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Must be tough.
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You have my condolences
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The absolute dread with which so many people (especially religious ones) approach the notion of human sexuality never ceases to astound me. The suspicion so many have that something as completely natural as sex is somehow wrong and/or shameful is just bizarre. I would hate to have such notions.

And a little knowledge -- of any subject -- doesn't detract from its beauty. (I was once asked if knowing why sunsets can be so beautiful didn't spoil the "magic" for me. The answer is certainly "no," in fact it makes it even more magical, deeper, richer.)
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
So, should school children* be taught how best to sexually express themselves, or should this be left to "on the job" experience, or maybe taking one's cues from internet porn?---I can't see more than a handful of parents seriously taking on the task.

*I'm thinking of junior high and senior high students.

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So you're asking actually saying that junior high students should be taught how to f*** or what?

This is a point of reducing people to mere animals who copulate automatically when their drives are hot. Or are you afraid they won't learn what goes where without porn or classroom demos?
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Abstinence-only sex education amounts to little more than "Outside of marriage, don't do it." So the education I'm speaking of is comprehensive sex education.

Comprehensive sex education (CSE) is a sex education instruction method that aims to give students the knowledge, attitudes, skills and values to make appropriate and healthy choices in their sexual lives. The intention is that this understanding will prevent students from contracting sexually transmitted infections in the future, including HIV and HPV. CSE is also designed with the intention of reducing teenage and unwanted pregnancies, as well as lowering rates of domestic and sexual violence, thus contributing to a healthier society, both physically and mentally. Comprehensive sex education ultimately promotes sexual abstinence as the safest sexual choice for young people. However, CSE curriculums and teachers are still committed to teaching students about topics connected to future sexual activity, such as age of consent, safe sex, birth control, abortion, and use of condoms.
source:Wikipedia

But beyond these "nuts and bolts" of sex, lies the matter of sexuality, "the quality of being sexual, or the way people experience and express themselves as sexual beings. This involves biological, erotic, physical, emotional, social, or spiritual feelings and behaviors."
source:Wikipedia

Personally, I feel human sexuality as defined here is an important component in creating a healthy sexual-self, and in forging interpersonal relationships, and therefore deserves to be seriously looked at.

So, should school children* be taught how best to sexually express themselves, or should this be left to "on the job" experience, or maybe taking one's cues from internet porn?---I can't see more than a handful of parents seriously taking on the task.

*I'm thinking of junior high and senior high students.

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I think some open, in class discussion with a moderating teacher is a good thing.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
So you're asking actually saying that junior high students should be taught how to f*** or what?

This is a point of reducing people to mere animals who copulate automatically when their drives are hot. Or are you afraid they won't learn what goes where without porn or classroom demos?
Are you suggesting that it would be better not to know about the totality of human sexuality, but rather just get on with it when the body feels ready? Would learning about how things work, how diseases get transmitted, how pregnancies get caused, how our emotions affect our physical reactions (and vice-versa) would all be bad things? People should just f*** and then feel guilty after? As long as it makes a baby, what else is there to say about it?

Let's convert that attitude to nutrition, and see how it works: Ice cream and cookies are food, and lentils and green vegetables are food. So eat whatever, and don't worry about how much 'cause it's just eating anyway.

Wonder why the US is just about the most obese nation on earth? I just gave you a hint.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Well, the nuts and bolts aspect is important. Knowing basic anatomy, possible pitfalls, and alternative stimulation techniques is a very good thing. Knowing where the clitoris is is important knowledge.

But more important is discussing how to be in a relationship. How do you discuss things? How to you encourage honest and effective communication? How do you learn to *listen* to another person? How do you deal with disagreements? or when a partner is not interested? or sick? How do you deal with it when a partner wants something different than you? How do you learn your own boundaries? How do you deal with anger? fear? lust? apathy?

Sex is important, even crucial. But there is also so much more that people fail to learn about how to be with another person. If we learned how to communicate, I suspect the sexual stuff would be a lot simpler. The facts will still be required, though.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
So you're asking actually saying that junior high students should be taught how to f*** or what?

Yes, teach them how to have sex effectively. That will be a very important thing to them in their lives.

This is a point of reducing people to mere animals who copulate automatically when their drives are hot. Or are you afraid they won't learn what goes where without porn or classroom demos?

This is no more the case than teaching basic home economics teaches one to play to their greed. People have to learn how to manage money well. They also need to learn how to be in a sexual relationship. Both have their dangers that people should know well before the events actually happen.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
You mean it's not already?
Geez, you guys really do suck at Sex Ed.:eek: And High School Biology. Come to think of it, this was also a subject of discussion in my grade 9 Health class (which is not actually Sex Ed, that's a separate thing.) And a discussion when we all had to have a big "meeting" with all of us packed in a hall with the school Councillor lecturing us on matters like bullying. And once in History when we veered off topic in one of our class discussions.
Of course we learnt about human sexuality. At least my school did. How do you have Biology/Health/Sex Ed without at least broaching the subject? Do your teachers simply read off cue cards or something?
 
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Skwim

Veteran Member
So you're asking actually saying that junior high students should be taught how to f*** or what?

This is a point of reducing people to mere animals who copulate automatically when their drives are hot. Or are you afraid they won't learn what goes where without porn or classroom demos?

What Evangelicalhumanist said in post #9

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SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
So you're asking actually saying that junior high students should be taught how to f*** or what?
You mean you guys don't teach the mechanics of sexual copulation? Seriously? We learnt that as we learnt about reproduction, because well reproduction. What happens, how it happens, why it happens and why methods like the pull out is not effective birth control to name but one myth debunked in that particular module.
How do you guys have biology class and not discuss this with students? It boggles my mind. In maybe a private Religious school, maybe but really? Not even a public school?

This is a point of reducing people to mere animals who copulate automatically when their drives are hot. Or are you afraid they won't learn what goes where without porn or classroom demos?
Porn is an atrocious source to learn sex from. Even worse than their peers. At least a teacher, nurse, medical professional or whoever teaches Sex Ed where you're from can discuss the emotional and psychological constraints a sexual relationship can have. As well as discuss any concerns or issues students have in that class,
Also classroom demos? You guys take your sex ed cues from Monty Python or something?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
You mean it's not already?
Geez, you guys really do suck at Sex Ed.:eek:
Hey, we're still bucking a puritanical mindset here that abstinence-only sex education is good enough for all horny kids.

Of course we learnt about human sexuality. At least my school did. How do you have Biology/Health/Sex Ed without at least broaching the subject? Do your teachers simply read off cue cards or something?
I'm old enough to have missed sex-ed so I can't speak to your question, but hope someone here will. People??

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Electra

Active Member
Yes. Also we need to be tough about love, relationships, signs of manipulation, ect..

You mean it's not already?
Geez, you guys really do suck at Sex Ed.:eek: And High School Biology. Come to think of it, this was also a subject of discussion in my grade 9 Health class (which is not actually Sex Ed, that's a separate thing.) And a discussion when we all had to have a big "meeting" with all of us packed in a hall with the school Councillor lecturing us on matters like bullying. And once in History when we veered off topic in one of our class discussions.
Of course we learnt about human sexuality. At least my school did. How do you have Biology/Health/Sex Ed without at least broaching the subject? Do your teachers simply read off cue cards or something?

We learnt that it was bad and masturbation was also bad that is all *explodes*
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Abstinence-only sex education amounts to little more than "Outside of marriage, don't do it." So the education I'm speaking of is comprehensive sex education.

Comprehensive sex education (CSE) is a sex education instruction method that aims to give students the knowledge, attitudes, skills and values to make appropriate and healthy choices in their sexual lives. The intention is that this understanding will prevent students from contracting sexually transmitted infections in the future, including HIV and HPV. CSE is also designed with the intention of reducing teenage and unwanted pregnancies, as well as lowering rates of domestic and sexual violence, thus contributing to a healthier society, both physically and mentally. Comprehensive sex education ultimately promotes sexual abstinence as the safest sexual choice for young people. However, CSE curriculums and teachers are still committed to teaching students about topics connected to future sexual activity, such as age of consent, safe sex, birth control, abortion, and use of condoms.
source:Wikipedia

But beyond these "nuts and bolts" of sex, lies the matter of sexuality, "the quality of being sexual, or the way people experience and express themselves as sexual beings. This involves biological, erotic, physical, emotional, social, or spiritual feelings and behaviors."
source:Wikipedia

Personally, I feel human sexuality as defined here is an important component in creating a healthy sexual-self, and in forging interpersonal relationships, and therefore deserves to be seriously looked at.

So, should school children* be taught how best to sexually express themselves, or should this be left to "on the job" experience, or maybe taking one's cues from internet porn?---I can't see more than a handful of parents seriously taking on the task.

*I'm thinking of junior high and senior high students.

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Absolutely for junior high and senior high students.

But part of that education should include abstinence as an option. As it is the only 100% guaranteed way to avoid teenage pregnancy and STD's. I find it odd how people think it is impossible to resist their desire for sex. Worse yet it is looked down upon if you are able to. Seems like a hate crime to me to shame someone into having sex, but that is the way the world is now I guess. /shrug
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Abstinence-only sex education amounts to little more than "Outside of marriage, don't do it." So the education I'm speaking of is comprehensive sex education.

Comprehensive sex education (CSE) is a sex education instruction method that aims to give students the knowledge, attitudes, skills and values to make appropriate and healthy choices in their sexual lives. The intention is that this understanding will prevent students from contracting sexually transmitted infections in the future, including HIV and HPV. CSE is also designed with the intention of reducing teenage and unwanted pregnancies, as well as lowering rates of domestic and sexual violence, thus contributing to a healthier society, both physically and mentally. Comprehensive sex education ultimately promotes sexual abstinence as the safest sexual choice for young people. However, CSE curriculums and teachers are still committed to teaching students about topics connected to future sexual activity, such as age of consent, safe sex, birth control, abortion, and use of condoms.
source:Wikipedia

But beyond these "nuts and bolts" of sex, lies the matter of sexuality, "the quality of being sexual, or the way people experience and express themselves as sexual beings. This involves biological, erotic, physical, emotional, social, or spiritual feelings and behaviors."
source:Wikipedia

Personally, I feel human sexuality as defined here is an important component in creating a healthy sexual-self, and in forging interpersonal relationships, and therefore deserves to be seriously looked at.

So, should school children* be taught how best to sexually express themselves, or should this be left to "on the job" experience, or maybe taking one's cues from internet porn?---I can't see more than a handful of parents seriously taking on the task.

*I'm thinking of junior high and senior high students.

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Of course. Knowing how to say no, how to say yes, how to avoid being pressured and why one should not be pressured would be just a small part of it. The nuts and bolts of sex ed is important, but only the beginning.
 
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