CG Didymus
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So moving on... Chapter 11. It has the two witnesses doing their thing for 42 months. Verse 7 says that when they have finished their testimony, the beast kills them and the bodies sit in the street of the city where their Lord was crucified for 31/2 days. Verse 11, after the 3/12 days they come to life and a great earthquake hits that city and kills 7000 people. Verse 14... the second Woe is past. Since you've already had Muhammad and the Umayyads in chapter 9 with the first Woe, how do you come up with using them again in the events describing the second Woe? Also, as I remember, the earthquake Baha'is used was in Persian, but this says it should be the city where the Lord of the two witnesses was crucified. How can that be anywhere but Jerusalem? Anyway, I can't wait to hear what you have to say. ThanksYes. You asked about two verses (Revelation 9:15-16). The response has included references to the three main divisions of Christianity as well as one of the most significant historic events and localities.
According to Pew research Islam is set to become the largest religion in the world and have more adherents than Christianity in the next 50 years or so.
Why Muslims are the world’s fastest-growing religious group
Old Roman calendar years are meant because the prophecy is addressed to the early Christians. The Roman year was 365 days long with an extra day added every fourth or leap year. There were 97 leap years between 1453 and 1844 AD. But by the Papal Bull of 1582 AD, 10 days were removed from the calendar in 1582 and one more day was removed in 1600. Thus the number of days by the Roman calendar between 30 May 1453 and 23 May 1844 was (391)x(365)+97-10-1-7 or 142,794 days, a span of time almost exactly 391 old Roman years of 365 1/4 days. The "hour" refers to "the time of the end" and the second woe. (Revelations 3:10, 11:13, 14-7) It will commence with the fulfilment of the 391 years.
Mehmet's victory was said to have cut off (metaphorically slain) one-third of Christendom. The fall of Constantinople to Islam is one of the most significant events in both Christian and Islamic history.
How is this relevant?
An educated guess.
Do you mean1453? The Rushidum Caliphate 632-661 were superseded by the Umayyads 661 - 750 were superseded by the Abassid Caliphate 750 - 1258, succeeded by the Fatimid Caliphate 909 - 1171, Mamluk Sultanate 1250-1517, Saffarid dynasty 861- 1003, the Ottoman Empire 1299 - 1922 and of course the Mongols.
Rashidun Caliphate - Wikipedia
Umayyad Caliphate - Wikipedia
Abbasid Caliphate - Wikipedia
Ottoman Empire - Wikipedia
I think we have discussed the birth of Christ being considered to be about 6 years before 1 AD so that makes 666.
1260 being 42 (30 day) months being 1844 on the Gregorian calendar.
Abdu'l-Baha interpreted chapters 11 and 12. Anything else is unofficial.
It will be the work of scholars to examine documents that provide definitive evidence of the link between Baha'u'llah and Jesse. Maybe some of my Baha'i colleagues on this thread are aware of such work.
Abdu'l-Baha is very clear about the linkage between Baha'u'llah and Jesse.
This rod out of the stem of Jesse might be correctly applied to Christ, for Joseph was of the descendants of Jesse, the father of David; but as Christ found existence through the Spirit of God, He called Himself the Son of God. If He had not done so, this description would refer to Him. Besides this, the events which he indicated as coming to pass in the days of that rod, if interpreted symbolically, were in part fulfilled in the day of Christ, but not all; and if not interpreted, then decidedly none of these signs happened. For example, the leopard and the lamb, the lion and the calf, the child and the asp, are metaphors and symbols for various nations, peoples, antagonistic sects and hostile races, who are as opposite and inimical as the wolf and lamb. We say that by the breath of the spirit of Christ they found concord and harmony, they were vivified, and they associated together.
But “they shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.” These conditions did not prevail in the time of the manifestation of Christ; for until today various and antagonistic nations exist in the world: very few acknowledge the God of Israel, and the greater number are without the knowledge of God. In the same way, universal peace did not come into existence in the time of Christ—that is to say, between the antagonistic and hostile nations there was neither peace nor concord, disputes and disagreements did not cease, and reconciliation and sincerity did not appear. So, even at this day, among the Christian sects and nations themselves, enmity, hatred and the most violent hostility are met with.
But these verses apply word for word to Bahá’u’lláh. Likewise in this marvelous cycle the earth will be transformed, and the world of humanity arrayed in tranquillity and beauty. Disputes, quarrels and murders will be replaced by peace, truth and concord; among the nations, peoples, races and countries, love and amity will appear. Cooperation and union will be established, and finally war will be entirely suppressed. When the laws of the Most Holy Book are enforced, contentions and disputes will find a final sentence of absolute justice before a general tribunal of the nations and kingdoms, and the difficulties that appear will be solved. The five continents of the world will form but one, the numerous nations will become one, the surface of the earth will become one land, and mankind will be a single community. The relations between the countries—the mingling, union and friendship of the peoples and communities—will reach to such a degree that the human race will be like one family and kindred. The light of heavenly love will shine, and the darkness of enmity and hatred will be dispelled from the world. Universal peace will raise its tent in the center of the earth, and the blessed Tree of Life will grow and spread to such an extent that it will overshadow the East and the West. Strong and weak, rich and poor, antagonistic sects and hostile nations—which are like the wolf and the lamb, the leopard and kid, the lion and the calf—will act toward each other with the most complete love, friendship, justice and equity. The world will be filled with science, with the knowledge of the reality of the mysteries of beings, and with the knowledge of God.
Bahá'í Reference Library - Some Answered Questions, Pages 62-66