Religion of Global Warming Exposed by one of their own.

[Ben Dhyan]

I've never said anything like that. I said it's biased.

But if you STILL insist on arguing: Yes, i do believe most of them are not credible. Almost none of them are quoted from actual environmental scientists. There's a bunch of politicians, some animal rights activists and even some biologists.

I do make the claim that they are not credible indeed. You are welcome to argue how an animal rights activist's quotes are valid.

We are not discussing the credibility of what they said, merely the credibility wrt to them actually saying what is quoted them saying. Are you claiming they did not say these things?

 

[Darkstorn]

We are not discussing the credibility of what they said, merely the credibility wrt to them actually saying what is quoted them saying.

We're not discussing that either. We are discussing bias.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

We're not discussing that either. We are discussing bias.

Ok, I'll let you get back to it...

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

That (socialist demagoguery) sounds a bit like rhetoric.

More like an oxymoron.

 

[Darkstorn]

More like an oxymoron.

Why are you calling your own claim an oxymoron? To reduce the value of your points? I'm confused now.

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

True, the theory depends 100% on Jiggered data, without it there is nothing to see

This quote from Yogin Kothari of the 'Union of Concerned Scientists' - is in response to Trump's attempts to make public science more public/ transparent- and pretty much sums it up for anyone

“The science that the agency relies on should be public, but you don’t need the underlying data"

?! oh no that's not important at all!

Or as the Democrat hivemind would have it, "It's not the nature of the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge." We could write an encyclopedia on the single subject of Democrat/socialist psychobabble. "We have to pass the bill before we can find out what's in it." Gaaaaaah!

 

[Darkstorn]

"We have to pass the bill before we can find out what's in it." Gaaaaaah!

"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system."

-George Bush

(Probably as fake as your quotes)

/E: Actually yours did happen, and mine is attributed to the wrong person. My bad, you win, liberals are evil, and you have successfully exposed our secret conspiracy to bring down capitalism.

 

[Debateable]

Just how many people does this massive, worldwide conspiracy involve?


Gee, do ya think maybe there had already been a body of work in climatology before the IPCC was formed? Or were you thinking that the field of climatology didn't exist until the formation of the IPCC?

Certainly not enough to KNOW we were the cause. When you state that your focus is on human-induced climate change, you don't leave any room for looking at alternative reasons. Certainly you can see the problem here, or are you too blinded?

 

[Darkstorn]

When you state that your focus is on human-induced climate change, you don't leave any room for looking at alternative reasons.

That's not a factual statement. You can both focus on something, and leave room for alternative viewpoints. You make the claim you cannot. I make the claim you can.

Your statement would imply that when you focus on alternative reasons, you don't leave any room for human-induced climate change.

 

[Debateable]

That's not a factual statement. You can both focus on something, and leave room for alternative viewpoints. You make the claim you cannot. I make the claim you can.

Your statement would imply that when you focus on alternative reasons, you don't leave any room for human-induced climate change.

You obviously do not know how government works.

 

[Debateable]

Here is something you all should watch. Shows how real journalism in most of today is pretty much dead.

 

[Darkstorn]

You obviously do not know how government works.

You seem to think that somehow answers my post. I just don't see how.

/E: Just to spell it out: You claiming that i don't "obviously know how government works" doesn't remove the factual inaccuracy of your previous statement.

"Mmmagical unicorns!"

"Nope."

"You obviously don't know how the government works!"

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system."

-George Bush

(Probably as fake as your quotes)

/E: Actually yours did happen, and mine is attributed to the wrong person. My bad, you win, liberals are evil, and you have successfully exposed our secret conspiracy to bring down capitalism.

So with all that, plus the other incredible quote I put up, you come to the right conclusion, but remain in sarcastic denial. The application of blind faith, on any subject, knows no bounds. And it isn't a secret conspiracy any more for those who are actually conscious. Even the media has given up any pretense to objectivity because they know the depth of liberal indoctrination to overwhelming ignorance, and screeching when confronted with facts.

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

Here is something you all should watch. Shows how real journalism in most of today is pretty much dead.

What, dead because it doesn't toe the liberal dogma line?

 

[Darkstorn]

So with all that, plus the other incredible quote I put up, you come to the right conclusion, but remain in sarcastic denial.

Actually i was making a joke, and i guess it backfired. My quote is real, just not done by George Bush, but another republican.

Here's the thing: I'm neither from the side of climate change proponents or denialists. But i do find your reduction of the whole (serious) thing into a silly inane conspiracy to be funny. You are doing a disservice to whatever side you're really on. I'm suspecting you're a troll fighting on the side of the climate change proponents, and an undercover liberal.

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

Why are you calling your own claim an oxymoron? To reduce the value of your points? I'm confused now.

An oxymoron can be used sometimes for ironic emphasis--even if one doesn't realize it at the time.

 

[metis]

No one disputes those facts, nor that the world has warmed, it is the claim that the humans are the predominate cause of the warming and or that the present temperature warming trend is bad for humans and the planet.

Over the last several decades, the scientific community has eliminated all other possibilities as being the major cause of global warming. These researches, I would suggest, are not fools.

 

[Darkstorn]

An oxymoron can be used sometimes for ironic emphasis--even if one doesn't realize it at the time.

Gotcha. I still think it lowers the value of your "points".

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

Actually i was making a joke, and i guess it backfired. My quote is real, just not done by George Bush, but another republican.

Here's the thing: I'm neither from the side of climate change proponents or denialists. But i do find your reduction of the whole (serious) thing into a silly inane conspiracy to be funny. You are doing a disservice to whatever side you're really on. I'm suspecting you're a troll fighting on the side of the climate change proponents, and an undercover liberal.

So we have all this evidence of the cynical manipulation of data and use of disingenuous rhetoric, and you call it silly. How long does our duty to maintain an open mind last?

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

Over the last several decades, the scientific community has eliminated all other possibilities as being the major cause of global warming. These researches, I would suggest, are not fools.

No, they aren't fools, they're demagogues. The ones who buy into their manipulations with blind allegiance are the fools.