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I have successfully produced a surah equal to that found in the Koran

-Peacemaker-

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The Lord watches over the way of the righteous,
but the way of the wicked leads to destruction. Blessed is the one
who does not walk in step with the wicked
or stand in the way that sinners in the company of mockers Serve the Lord with fear
and celebrate his with trembling or he will be angry
and your way will lead to your destruction.
Know that the Lord has set apart his faithful servant for himself;
the Lord hears when I call to him. Tremble do not sin
when you are on your beds. God is a righteous judge,
a God who displays his wrath every day.
If he does not relent, he will sharpen his sword
he will bend and string his bow.He has prepared his deadly weapons;
he makes ready his flaming arrows. Sing the praises of the Lord, enthroned in Zion
proclaim among the nations what he has done. For he who avenges blood remembers;
he does not ignore the cries of the afflicted. The Lord is in his holy temple;
the Lord is on his heavenly throne. He observes everyone on earth;
his eyes examine them. The Lord examines the righteous,
but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
grade it on content. Forgive me I'm not a poet

Content? Yeah, much of the intellectual content of the Qur'an doesn't seem especially creative or unique to me. However, I believe the Qur'anic "challenge" includes being able to surpass the Qur'an's linguistic excellence, and to that end, I have seen nothing that does.
 

-Peacemaker-

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Content? Yeah, much of the intellectual content of the Qur'an doesn't seem especially creative or unique to me. However, I believe the Qur'anic "challenge" includes being able to surpass the Qur'an's linguistic excellence, and to that end, I have seen nothing that does.
I recommend reading my surah out loud. I think you'll hear the music. Keep in mind English has different stress patterns than Arabic
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I recommend reading my surah out loud. I think you'll hear the music. Keep in mind English has different stress patterns than Arabic

It seems to me that if you want your claim of surpassing the Qur'an to be taken seriously, you shouldn't insult the intelligence of those you're talking to. The above is a prime example of doing just that.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I personally like this Qur'anic recitation and think it demonstrates the brilliance of Qur'anic poetry quite well in audible form:


I'm not sure how much non-Arabic speakers will be able to appreciate it, but I suspect it's not impossible for at least some non-Arabic speakers to get a sense of Qur'anic poetic flow from it. (I wouldn't blame them if they didn't, though.)

What you wrote in your OP doesn't even begin to compare to this.
 
The linguistic prowess of the Qur'an in Arabic is unparalleled, at least so far.

Your "surah" is nowhere near the level of Qur'anic eloquence. No chance. Sorry.

How are these 3 surahs in Arabic? I am clueless about Arabic, but surely someone could write something as good as these. Even if the work as a whole is astoundingly eloquent and beyond compare, surely the greatest Arab poets could match at least one of these 3?

114: Say: 'I take refuge with the Lord of men, (1) the King of men, (2) the God of men, (3) from the evil of the slinking whisperer (4) who whispers in the breasts of men (5) of jinn and men.' (6)

106: For the composing of Koraish, (1) their composing for the winter and summer caravan! (2) So let them serve the Lord of this House (3) who has fed them against hunger and secured them from fear. (4)

108: Surely We have given thee abundance; (1) so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice. (2) Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off. (3)
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
How are these 3 surahs in Arabic? I am clueless about Arabic, but surely someone could write something as good as these. Even if the work as a whole is astoundingly eloquent and beyond compare, surely the greatest Arab poets could match at least one of these 3?

114: Say: 'I take refuge with the Lord of men, (1) the King of men, (2) the God of men, (3) from the evil of the slinking whisperer (4) who whispers in the breasts of men (5) of jinn and men.' (6)

106: For the composing of Koraish, (1) their composing for the winter and summer caravan! (2) So let them serve the Lord of this House (3) who has fed them against hunger and secured them from fear. (4)

108: Surely We have given thee abundance; (1) so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice. (2) Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off. (3)

They are all exemplary in terms of linguistic prowess. I have seen nothing from any poet that matches any of them. I'm not exaggerating either. The last one alone has at least 20 poetic devices in Arabic.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I personally like this Qur'anic recitation and think it demonstrates the brilliance of Qur'anic poetry quite well in audible form:


I'm not sure how much non-Arabic speakers will be able to appreciate it, but I suspect it's not impossible for at least some non-Arabic speakers to get a sense of Qur'anic poetic flow from it. (I wouldn't blame them if they didn't, though.)

What you wrote in your OP doesn't even begin to compare to this.
I made it to :48 seconds.. ... Arabic just isn't a great language to listen to...
 

Saint Frankenstein

Gone
Premium Member
The linguistic prowess of the Qur'an in Arabic is unparalleled, at least so far.

Your "surah" is nowhere near the level of Qur'anic eloquence. No chance. Sorry.
I was about to ask about what grounds the Qur'an's unsurpassed excellence is based on, actually. So it it really is about something with the Arabic language rather than the content? I don't imagine people who know Arabic will be able to understand the challenge. Arabic is surely a beautiful language. I can understand why Muslims would claim that the Arabic version of the Qur'an is the supreme form of it, even though I don't know Arabic. (It's like how I'm currently listening to Matisyahu and he has Hebrew passages in his songs at times, which I find beautiful and I don't know Hebrew, either. )
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
If you're going to try taking that challenge, why would you do so with English? It's a completely different language family from Arabic, nevermind a completely different language.

The two have nothing to do with each other.
 
They are all exemplary in terms of linguistic prowess. I have seen nothing from any poet that matches any of them. I'm not exaggerating either. The last one alone has at least 20 poetic devices in Arabic.

Your language is strange :D

What about the first one? It rhymes the same word 5 times in a modified repetitive pattern. What makes it amazing in Arabic?
 
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