According to your "logic" in previous posts humanity is all sinners because [2]Adam and Eve brought evil into existence [3] wrecking god's PERFECT creation. Now you try to make it sound like god planned this all along. [4]Either way, a creator shares responsibility for whatever problems his/her creation makes. According to your "logic" weapon makers share no responsibility for the deaths caused by the weapons they create.
1. Firstly, when you say things like this I become uncomfortable because your perceptions and comprehension of me, and what I write, is usually dubious, at best. Your logic is alien to me. It is a reflection of the blame culture that has creeped into society where blame is far better then admitting your mistakes and inadequacies, evidenced in you attempt to blame God for our choices.
2. Adam and Eve didn't bring evil into the world, that was Satan. They brought mortality and carnality with all of its ramifications, one of which is sin, or opposition. Actually, God did plan this, with us, all along. They once knew a place where there was no wrong and right, just contentment, but they fell into sin and mortality once they swallowed the flesh of the forbidden fruit. If they hadn't then we would not be here and they would still be in the garden of Edon not knowing the difference between good and evil, wrong and right.
3. They didn't wreck Gods plan either. It was a plan devised by all of us so it was all of our plan and not an individuals plan.
1. It was a part of Gods plan that they should fall into mortality because if they didn't then they couldn't procreate and replenish the earth. It was essential to the entire Plan of Salvation that they should fall.
2. God could not be in the presence of imperfection so when He created Adam and Eve they were perfect as
3. He was. So how could He cause them to fall. The only way was with original sin. One of them had to sin and she did.
4. We are here to be tried and tested in the flesh. How is that possible if God is responsible for our actions because He created our original parents. How can we be held accountable for our choices? What would you do if little Johnny ate your last chocolate bar and his response to your anger was "but daddy, it is not just my fault because God created me so you must tell Him off as well. It is a copout. Johnny made the choice so Johnny is entirely responsible for that choice that he made. No one else. Also, He did not create us, my parents did that. He created Adam and Eve and they created the human race. Weapon makers do not share any responsibility for the deaths their weapons cause. It is those with that kind of mentality who are solely responsible for those deaths. But your honor it wasn't just me who killed my next door neighbour it was God who created me, according to your logic.
What are you talking about? In the story of Job, god told satan to kill Job's kids. How is that moral? What is the righteous message this sadistic story is supposed to be teaching?
God said: - "Then the LORD said to Satan, "Behold, all that he has is in your power, only do not put forth your hand on him."
God suffered Job to be tried, as he suffered Peter to be sifted. It is our comfort that God has the devil in a chain. He has no power to lead men to sin, but what they give him themselves; nor any power to afflict men, but what is given him from above. All this is here described to us after the manner of men. The Scripture speaks thus to teach us that God directs the affairs of the world.
One can only suffer from adversity if that is what they chose. If you have sufficient faith then Job's loss of his wife would not be a suffering to him as he would know where she is and that, but for a short time, they would be back together again. The same effect covers all things that we believe is adversity. For a short period Job succumbed to his situation and complained to God, however, he was soon back on the straight and narrow.
You only suffer if you are an atheist and have no beliefs, or you are a Christian that lacks sufficient faith in God to know that this is part of being tried and tested. Our reason for being here in the first place. God allowed Satan to try and break Job because he knew that Job was faithful so would not suffer from anything that Satan could throw at him. You cannot see that because if someone steals your car then you become angry and hurt, you suffer, however, the correct response would be to not allow it to effect you because you know that everything happens for a reason. By allowing it to cause suffering is to fail the test.
You're deciding who gets to be with god now? When did you get this promotion? Also, you know nothing about me, I'll ask you again to stop making personal attacks.
And I will tell you again that it is not a personal attack, it is a reality born out by the fact that you are no longer a Christian. I don't need to know you to know that. Like Job you are being tested but have failed the test because you are offended. I could say the same about your unfounded accusation that I am giving instruction to a God that I worship by way of a promotion thus mocking me, however, I am not going to allow your words to hurt me so I have past the test.
