Why the Hell . . . .

[james2ko]

Can someone perform murderous rampage of souls living forever? Do they immediately respawn when killed?

I don't know. Good questions to ask God after you're resurrected.

 

[viole]

God will physically resurrect everyone who ever lived that did not get a fair opportunity to know His son, under paradisaical circumstances (Isa 35:1-2;Isa 65:25), void of any physical or mental defects (Isa 35:5-6). They will be assigned a teacher/counselor to help them make right choices (Isa 30:20-21). That is where God's rehabilitation will cease.

The decision to accept or reject Him will ultimately fall on each individual. God will not choose salvation for them. If so, He would be accused by those who are not interested in what God has to offer as a manipulative, meddling puppeteer.

Who would refute someone who resurrected her under paradisiacal circumstances?

I would not. Even without teachers and counselors.

Those people will have an enormous, and unjustified, advantage towards making the right choice.

Ciao

- viole

 

[james2ko]

Who would refute someone who resurrected her under paradisiacal circumstances?

I would not. Even without teachers and counselors.

Those people will have an enormous, and unjustified, advantage towards making the right choice.

That's the point.

 

[viole]

I don't know. Good questions to ask God after you're resurrected.

I do not necessarily rely on authorities. So, probably I would test it. For instance, by strangling some other soul with the strings of my harp and see what happens.

Ciao

- viole

 

[viole]

That's the point.

What point?

Are the odds of salvation dependent on accidents of birth?

Ciao

- viole

 

[james2ko]

I do not necessarily rely on authorities. So, probably I would test it. For instance, by strangling some other soul with the strings of my harp and see what happens.

Go for it. You have 100 yrs to repent (Isa 65:20)

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

People that claim they don't believe in hell, or God, seem to ask more questions about it then those who do believe. Why is that? Are you looking for validation?

If someone wholeheartedly believed - I mean GENUINELY BELIEVED in unicorns, would you ask them no questions in order to discern WHY they believed so assertively? You wouldn't be the least bit curious? Even if only to be able to write them off? Well that's what I would do.

 

[james2ko]

What point?

Are the odds of salvation dependent on accidents of birth?

What odds? You implied it will be a no brainer?

 

[viole]

Go for it. You have 100 yrs to repent (Isa 65:20)

To repent what?

Ciao

- viole

 

[james2ko]

To repent what?

To repent from committing murder or attempted murder by strangling someone with your harp strings.

 

[viole]

What odds? You implied it will be a no brainer?

Sure. I don't know the average atheist, but if I find myself in the afterlife (under paradisiac circumstances) I would immediately reconsider.

Ciao

- viole

 

[james2ko]

Sure. I don't know the average atheist, but if I find myself in the afterlife (under paradisiac circumstances) I would immediately reconsider.

And that is God's intention--making the choice of eternal life a no brainer.

 

[viole]

To repent from committing murder or attempted murder by strangling someone with your harp strings.

I could repent now, but I cannot guarantee that I will not change my time in the next several billion years. I expect that using my harp just for playing the glory to Jesus, could get a bit boring after a while.

Don't you think so?

Ciao

- viole

 

[viole]

And that is God's intention--making the choice of eternal life a no brainer.

And He is making a very poor job at that. I mean, who would seriously believe that stuff if not after death and in paradisiac circumstances?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Acim]

Just what is accomplished by putting people in hell?

Literally, nothing.

This is my second post in the thread. Me being a theist. First one speaks to what I believe.

Could just as easily ask what is accomplished by punishing anyone for anything. Same answer would apply. Literally, nothing.

 

[james2ko]

I could repent now, but I cannot guarantee that I will not change my time in the next several billion years. I expect that using my harp just for playing the glory to Jesus, could get a bit boring after a while.Don't you think so?

There will be no harp playing, generally speaking. That is a misconception. I was merely playing into your joke (at least I hope it was a joke). Unbelievers along with those who never got a fair opportunity to know God, will be living as we are now, but under much nicer conditions.

 

[james2ko]

And He is making a very poor job at that. I mean, who would seriously believe that stuff if not after death and in paradisiac circumstances?

Contrary to Christian orthodox belief, He is not attempting to save the "world" at this time.

 

[viole]

Contrary to Christian orthodox belief, He is not attempting to save the "world" at this time.

If unbelievers will get the same chance as the ones who never heard of Jesus, then it is not so important if God tries to save the world or not.

Ciao

- viole

 

[james2ko]

If unbelievers will get the same chance as the ones who never heard of Jesus, then it is not so important if God tries to save the world or not.

Precisely. It is not His priority, at least not at this time. Currently, He is only working to save the future world leaders and those teachers and counselors who will help Him run the planet. A super world government, if you will. But there will come a time when saving unbelievers and those who never heard of Jesus will become His priority.

 

[viole]

Precisely. It is not His priority, at least not at this time. Currently, He is only working to save the future world leaders and those teachers and counselors who will help Him run the planet. A super world government, if you will. But there will come a time when saving unbelievers and those who never heard of Jesus will become His priority.

Does God need help?

Ciao

- viole