The contributions of the sciences to Religion

[Ben Dhyan]

so a telescope, or microscope, or an MRI?

So take it up with the dictionary publishers... they try to make explanations sufficiently understandable so that even the below average would get it....but they didn't count on you...

The 'power' refers to the human individual...not human technology....

 

[McBell]

So take it up with the dictionary publishers... they try to make explanations sufficiently understandable so that even the below average would get it....but they didn't count on you...

The 'power' refers to the human individual...not human technology....

It is not any fault of mine you presented such a half assed definition....

"Extrasensory perception or ESP, also called sixth sense, includes reception of information not gained through the recognized physical senses but sensed with the mind"​

 

[Shad]

Shad...evolutionary survival for most species has always depended on those individuals with ESP.....knowing where food was...the early detection of predators..a coming storm or earthquake.. You think this does not apply to the human race?

Unsubstantiated claim to back another unsubstantiated claim while also attempting to boost your ego with both unsubstantiated claims. Making stuff up as you go along is the hallmark of a fraud.

 

[mystic64]

Unsubstantiated claim to back another unsubstantiated claim while also attempting to boost your ego with both unsubstantiated claims. Making stuff up as you go along is the hallmark of a fraud.

Ben d is innocent until proven guilty. Where is "your" evidence Shad? ESP has been proven/substaniated. The problem is that it is not exactly understood how it works by science. For you it would have to be magic for it to be real and as everybody knows, there is no such thing as magic. And lets face it , if it was proven to you that it is real relative to your thoughts and emotions, you would be terrified. Because, you are under the illusion that your thoughts and emotions are safe and that nobody can know what they are. If you were to consider ESP real, then you would have to consider your self vulnerable to it, because you have no defence against it. Those of us that have the ESP ability and have experience with it, "do" have defences against it! We are not vulnerable like you are .

 

[mystic64]

It is not any fault of mine you presented such a half assed definition....

"Extrasensory perception or ESP, also called sixth sense, includes reception of information not gained through the recognized physical senses but sensed with the mind"​

Mestemia , you are just having fun!

 

[McBell]

ESP has been proven/substaniated.

Source please.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

It is not any fault of mine you presented such a half assed definition....

"Extrasensory perception or ESP, also called sixth sense, includes reception of information not gained through the recognized physical senses but sensed with the mind"​

Don't make excuses....if you didn't know the meaning of ESP....you should not be posting on this thread until you did.. Now that you do...do you accept ESP is a genuine feature of planetary life forms?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Unsubstantiated claim to back another unsubstantiated claim while also attempting to boost your ego with both unsubstantiated claims. Making stuff up as you go along is the hallmark of a fraud.

Your obfuscation is becoming desperate...and you have painted yourself into a corner.. .. Is your ignorance so great that you have never read of any examples of insect, animal, bird, or human ESP? Check it out....

 

[Yerda]

The contributions of the sciences to Religion

Sciences have nothing to contribute to religion as it is a different domain where sciences are deaf/dumb/blind.
Regards

Not true. Modern arguments for God can hinge on knowledge of the sciences. The Kalam cosmological argument or Platinga's arument about the reliability of evolved senses are two that spring to mind immediately.

 

[aoji]

It is Religion that contributed most to Science as Science is the third branch of knowledge after Philosophy and Religion. What has minimized the need for Religion, imo, is not Science, per se, but Medicine (yes, even though the Medical Sciences are part of Science.) But even Medicine has its roots within Religion. That's not to say that Medicine is a perfect Science since it has its own set of faults, like greedy and fraudulent practitioners. Supposedly the Medical field kills some 440,000 people a year.

https://www.rt.com/usa/medical-errors-kill-galindo-924/
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsr...mistakes-are-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-us

 

[McBell]

do you accept ESP is a genuine feature of planetary life forms?

nope.
and thus far you have not presented anything to make me think it is anything other than wishful thinking on your part.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

nope.
and thus far you have not presented anything to make me think it is anything other than wishful thinking on your part.

Well that's how evolution works Mestemia......human beings are not all at the same level of development....some have naturally advanced levels of ESP, while some moderate, and the trailing edge of the bell curve have none.....

 

[McBell]

Well that's how evolution works Mestemia......human beings are not all at the same level of development....some have naturally advanced levels of ESP, while some moderate, and the trailing edge of the bell curve have none.....

yeah, that must be it...

Sad, really, that all you have to offer is a big steaming pile of bull **** and ego masturbation.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

yeah, that must be it...

Sad, really, that all you have to offer is a big steaming pile of bull **** and ego masturbation.

And it also shows in the standard of articulation...

 

[McBell]

And it also shows in the standard of articulation...

you truly are a master of shoveling.

 

[mystic64]

you truly are a master of shoveling.

No he is not , you are. You are "way" better at the verbal slice than he is.

 

[mystic64]

Source please.

Prove me wrong. You are going to find, if you look, way more evidence on the internet that supports the validity of ESP than you will find that does not support ESP. Tis a fact you know. And Mestemia , you seem to have a picture of me as an avatar picture. I find that an interesting curiosity.

 

[paarsurrey]

It is Religion that contributed most to Science as Science is the third branch of knowledge after Philosophy and Religion. What has minimized the need for Religion, imo, is not Science, per se, but Medicine (yes, even though the Medical Sciences are part of Science.) But even Medicine has its roots within Religion. That's not to say that Medicine is a perfect Science since it has its own set of faults, like greedy and fraudulent practitioners. Supposedly the Medical field kills some 440,000 people a year.
https://www.rt.com/usa/medical-errors-kill-galindo-924/
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsr...mistakes-are-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-us

A lot many people.
Are they killed in the name of science?
Regards

 

[Shad]

Your obfuscation is becoming desperate...and you have painted yourself into a corner.. .. Is your ignorance so great that you have never read of any examples of insect, animal, bird, or human ESP? Check it out....

Hilarious coming from the person that presented zero evidence for their claim that can not be undermined so easily

 

[Shad]

Ben d is innocent until proven guilty. Where is "your" evidence Shad? ESP has been proven/substaniated.

No it hasn't

The problem is that it is not exactly understood how it works by science. For you it would have to be magic for it to be real and as everybody knows, there is no such thing as magic.

So its "proven" but not by science...

And lets face it , if it was proven to you that it is real relative to your thoughts and emotions, you would be terrified.

You switched arguments. First you claim it was proven now you said "if"

Because, you are under the illusion that your thoughts and emotions are safe and that nobody can know what they are.

Empty claims

[quote[If you were to consider ESP real, then you would have to consider your self vulnerable to it, because you have no defence against it. Those of us that have the ESP ability and have experience with it, "do" have defences against it! We are not vulnerable like you are .[/QUOTE]

So I reject it because I fear mind reading... Did you read my mind to gain this information or are you just making up excuses on the spot like Ben.