Did Jesus Claim to be God?

[Isaiah Torres]

Don't know why you'd need to accuse Isaiah of lying.

No where in that text does it specify it is talking about Yeshua.... It is a faulty assumption without evidence to even presume it.

Especially when it calls the person 'Everlasting Father'; when clearly Yeshua prayed to his Father in Heaven.

That was isaiah prophesying about the messiah is Jesus the messiah?..And that was jesus flesh praying to His Spirit to set an example for us..but who else could Isaiah be talking about in Isaiah 9:6

 

[wizanda]

That was isaiah prophesying about the messiah is Jesus the messiah?

Yeshua didn't claim to be The Messiah; those who came after did .i.e. gospel of John, Paul and Simon peter.

but who else could Isaiah be talking about in Isaiah 9:6

I'm not sure, might research it more, thus not going to make faulty assumptions without evidence.....Yet there is evidence to say what it isn't.

 

[Isaiah Torres]

Yeshua didn't claim to be The Messiah; those who came after did .i.e. gospel of John, Paul and Simon peter.

I'm not sure, might research it more, thus not going to make faulty assumptions without evidence.....Yet there is evidence to say what it isn't.

Christ means messiah.. John 1:41 or you can google it.. So Jesus is the messiah and the everlasting Father isaiah was talking about in Isaiah 9:6 or is Jesus not the Christ now?

 

[wizanda]

Christ means messiah..

A Christos means an anointed one, like the prophets were anointed.... The Messiah is the being that shall reign in the Messianic age; this could be God for all we know.

So Jesus is the messiah and the everlasting Father isaiah was talking about in Isaiah 9:6 or is Jesus not the Christ now?

Yeshua said the father is in Heaven.
There isn't anywhere saying Yeshua was anointed; yet we do presume he was....So was a christ, like any of the other prophets.

 

[Isaiah Torres]

A Christos means an anointed one, like the prophets were anointed.... The Messiah is the being that shall reign in the Messianic age; this could be God for all we know.

Yeshua said the father is in Heaven.
There isn't anywhere saying Yeshua was anointed; yet we do presume he was....So was a christ, like any of the other prophets.

So John 1:41 lied? No it also can mean messias..Well you know what Jesus said about them that believe not..but let me ask you a question did isaiah tell the truth in Isaiah 43:11 when God said "..beside me there is NO saviour"? Is that the truth?

 

[Isaiah Torres]

A Christos means an anointed one, like the prophets were anointed.... The Messiah is the being that shall reign in the Messianic age; this could be God for all we know.

Yeshua said the father is in Heaven.
There isn't anywhere saying Yeshua was anointed; yet we do presume he was....So was a christ, like any of the other prophets.

Christ derives from the word messiah liar!

 

[Isaiah Torres]

Christ derives from the word messiah liar!

Christ derives from the word messiah liar!

it means anointed too but it also means massiah as you can see in hebrew

 

[Isaiah Torres]

A Christos means an anointed one, like the prophets were anointed.... The Messiah is the being that shall reign in the Messianic age; this could be God for all we know.

Yeshua said the father is in Heaven.
There isn't anywhere saying Yeshua was anointed; yet we do presume he was....So was a christ, like any of the other prophets.

The messiah already did come and yes it was God ! Thats why the bible says he was born here God with us!

 

[wizanda]

So John 1:41 lied?

Already said most of the gospel of John is made up....

Christ derives from the word messiah liar!

Don't need to accuse me of lying.... You've misinterpreted what was said....

'The Messiah' is a specific terminology with numerous prophetic texts, referring to someone who will reign in the Messianic age....

Yeshua two thousand years ago didn't do that; so you're either making him into a liar by claiming he said it or you've misinterpreted what was said there as well.

but let me ask you a question did isaiah tell the truth in Isaiah 43:11 when God said "..beside me there is NO saviour"? Is that the truth?

That is true, only God saves... Which is why Yeshua passed on sins to God, and acts as intercessor for us, if we follow his teachings.

 

[moorea944]

Already said most of the gospel of John is made up....

Don't need to accuse me of lying.... You've misinterpreted what was said....

'The Messiah' is a specific terminology with numerous prophetic texts, referring to someone who will reign in the Messianic age....

Yeshua two thousand years ago didn't do that; so you're either making him into a liar by claiming he said it or you've misinterpreted what was said there as well.

That is true, only God saves... Which is why Yeshua passed on sins to God, and acts as intercessor for us, if we follow his teachings.

How can you say that most of the gospel of John is made up? ALL scripture is inspired by God.

 

[wizanda]

How can you say that most of the gospel of John is made up? ALL scripture is inspired by God.

Here is a start to some of the contradictions within it, there are loads more points as well... Still not gone over it with a fine tooth comb, to show almost every line wrong in someway.

As for it being inspired by YHVH, it is.... That is why Yeshua prophesied, "don't go after those who use the term I Am (Ego I-mee) to deceive many", which clearly the gospel of John does.

 

[Isaiah Torres]

Already said most of the gospel of John is made up....

Don't need to accuse me of lying.... You've misinterpreted what was said....

'The Messiah' is a specific terminology with numerous prophetic texts, referring to someone who will reign in the Messianic age....

Yeshua two thousand years ago didn't do that; so you're either making him into a liar by claiming he said it or you've misinterpreted what was said there as well.

That is true, only God saves... Which is why Yeshua passed on sins to God, and acts as intercessor for us, if we follow his teachings.

God said beside him there is NO savior is that the truth? Yes or no?

 

[wizanda]

God said beside him there is NO savior is that the truth? Yes or no?

Nope, Isaiah said that.

 

[Isaiah Torres]

Nope, Isaiah said that.

No stop lying read that verse Isaiah 43:11 that was God talking it reads I, even I, am the LORD; and besides me there is no savior. Is that the truth? & the bible says For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. So isaiah that wasnt isaiah talking it was God talking through him and the bible says ALL scripture is guven by the inspiration of God so God inspired isaiah to say that but that was God Almighty talking..so ima ask you again God said beside me there is NO savior is that the truth? Yes or no?

 

[wizanda]

I, even I, am the LORD; and besides me there is no savior.

Why is that a lie? YHVH told Isaiah to write it.... Could have been edited, and all sorts since then.

So nope, i just don't think God speaks from books; it is a record of what people believed God said.

 

[Isaiah Torres]

Why is that a lie? YHVH told Isaiah to write it.... Could have been edited, and all sorts since then.

So nope, i just don't think God speaks from books; it is a record of what people believed God said.

So why you here talking about the book if you dont believe it? Jesus lets us know where all unbelievers are going..& God spoke to Isaiah and he wrote it..thats why the bible says the prophey came not in old time by the will of man but holy man of God spake as they were move by the Holy Ghost..so your telling me Isaiah told a lie? Which you told me not to accuse him of doing earlier? Thats how i know i got you trapped..so answer me Isaiah told a lie? When God spoke through him and said "beside me there is no savior" ?or did isaiah lie on God?

 

[Isaiah Torres]

So why you here talking about the book if you dont believe it? Jesus lets us know where all unbelievers are going..& God spoke to Isaiah and he wrote it..thats why the bible says the prophey came not in old time by the will of man but holy man of God spake as they were move by the Holy Ghost..so your telling me Isaiah told a lie? Which you told me not to accuse him of doing earlier? Thats how i know i got you trapped..so answer me Isaiah told a lie? When God spoke through him and said "beside me there is no savior" ?or did isaiah lie on God?

Jesus calls you a fool.. If your slow to believe what the prophets written Luke 24:25

 

[wizanda]

So why you here talking about the book if you dont believe it?

Because it fascinates me how it adds up over time, to create a world wide snare/deception, to catch out the hypocrites.

Jesus calls you a fool..

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

He didn't call me a fool; he was referring to the people after his resurrection he spoke with.

 

[Isaiah Torres]

Because it fascinates me how it adds up over time, to create a world wide snare/deception, to catch out the hypocrites.

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

He didn't call me a fool; he was referring to the people after his resurrection he spoke with.

He called people that are slow to believe that prophets fools..and your not believing what isaiah said so your a fool and a hypocrite and certaintly aint jesus or my brother..& you will see when you hit eternity you better repent amd get right with God amd believe the Gospel..the kingdom of Heaven is at hand...but you contradicted yourself sir..so ima going to ask you on more time is there no savior besides God like Isaiah said? Or did Isaiah tell a lie?

 

[moorea944]

Yeshua didn't claim to be The Messiah; those who came after did .i.e. gospel of John, Paul and Simon peter.

I'm not sure, might research it more, thus not going to make faulty assumptions without evidence.....Yet there is evidence to say what it isn't.

Jesus knew he was the Messiah.