Ben Carson wants abortion outlawed in cases of rape and incest

[Druac]

I'm Pro-Species-Survival...my honest opinion is that abortion will be one of the tools used to insure our survival as a species.

 

[RedDragon94]

Only with 41% of the Pro-lifers

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I would say that abortion should be legal in all scenarios except in the third trimester because that (at least, in my mind) is when a fetus becomes a living person.

 

[Skwim]

I would say that abortion should be legal in all scenarios except in the third trimester because that (at least, in my mind) is when a fetus becomes a living person.

Baring endangering the life of the mother should she not have an abortion, I can go along with this.

 

[esmith]

How about I want an abortion because it would be an inconvenience not to. Maybe if they used their brain vice their hormones they wouldn't be inconvenienced. Just saying.

 

[RedDragon94]

Baring endangering the life of the mother should she not have an abortion, I can go along with this.

Right, like six months isn't enough time to find out whether your life is in danger.

 

[Skwim]

Right, like six months isn't enough time to find out whether your life is in danger.

Hey, bad stuff can pop up at any time.

 

[RedDragon94]

Hey, bad stuff can pop up at any time.

I guess I'll give it to you.

 

[TPaine]

My question is why do so many in the anti-choice crowd (but not Dr. Carson) also oppose contraceptives, high school sex ed classes, and many government programs such as
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), that help low income parent(s) financially? One can get the impression that they support the life of the fetus, but once the child is born they don't give a damn about if. Poverty statistics on U.S. poverty do not paint a pretty picture. http://www.povertyprogram.com/usa.php

 

[esmith]

My question is why do so many in the anti-choice crowd (but not Dr. Carson) also oppose contraceptives, high school sex ed classes, and many government programs such as
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), that help low income parent(s) financially? One can get the impression that they support the life of the fetus, but once the child is born they don't give a damn about if. Poverty statistics on U.S. poverty do not paint a pretty picture. http://www.povertyprogram.com/usa.php

Where do you find that those that are pro-life oppose contraception? I for one am pro-life except in the case of harm to the mother nor after the third trimester or an abortion for convenience. Still debating myself in the case of rape or incest. Also I'm all for contraception

 

[Druac]

Where do you find that those that are pro-life oppose contraception? I for one am pro-life except in the case of harm to the mother nor after the third trimester or an abortion for convenience. Still debating myself in the case of rape or incest. Also I'm all for contraception

I think the qualifying statement was "why do so many". And many do, it is easy to find in what MANY of them support and don't support...particularly from those on the religious-right.

 

[SomeRandom]

Right, like six months isn't enough time to find out whether your life is in danger.

Actually there are some medical conditions that do not actually show up until the last trimester. For whatever reason. (Not a doctor here.)

 

[dust1n]

After 9 years of debating abortions, my only regret is never having the opportunity to have an abortion. Not even an convenience abortion, I'd gladly go out of my way at this point.

 

[leibowde84]

Because it is the one supported by rock solid science. Human beings begin at conception and end at death. This is as unambiguous as the earth orbiting the sun.
Tom

For this to be coherent, don't you have to define "humanness"?

 

[leibowde84]

For this to be coherent, don't you have to define "humanness"?

I would assume that you wouldn't have a problem aborting a baby without a beating heart. So, it cant be dna or soecies. Is it consviousness? When does that happen in fetal development? I don't mean to prod, but I don't get how you could propose drawing the line legally. This requires a very specific line.

 

[Altfish]

Pyramids built by Joseph to store grain...

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friend...son-joseph-built-the-pyramids-to-store-grain/

 

[TPaine]

Where do you find that those that are pro-life oppose contraception? I for one am pro-life except in the case of harm to the mother nor after the third trimester or an abortion for convenience. Still debating myself in the case of rape or incest. Also I'm all for contraception

Some examples are Rick Santorum and his followers, the Roman Catholic Church, Focus on the Family (for unmarried women), a Protestant sect called Quiverfull, the Christian Coalition, etc. Many anti-choice people oppose the Plan B One Step pill (AKA the morning after pill because they believe its an abortion pill like RU-486. Its not.

Depending upon where you are in your cycle, Plan B One-Step may work in one of these ways:

• It may prevent or delay ovulation.
• It may interfere with fertilization of an egg.

It is also possible that this type of emergency birth control prevents implantation of a fertilized egg in the uterus by altering its lining.

http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/plan-b

 

[columbus]

After 9 years of debating abortions, my only regret is never having the opportunity to have an abortion. Not even an convenience abortion, I'd gladly go out of my way at this point.

I've heard some really stupid and disgusting things in my life.
But this is close to the bottom of the barrel.
Tom

 

[Demonslayer]

After 9 years of debating abortions, my only regret is never having the opportunity to have an abortion. Not even an convenience abortion, I'd gladly go out of my way at this point.

It's never to late to live your dream!

 

[columbus]

For this to be coherent, don't you have to define "humanness"?

No, I don't as a matter of fact.
If I used the word "human" in sentences including the terms "human genome" or "human rights" or "human esophagus" or "human sacrifice" we would not need a discussion about "humanness" for you to understand what I was saying.
Neither do we need it for a discussion of "human being".
Tom

 

[leibowde84]

No, I don't as a matter of fact.
If I used the word "human" in sentences including the terms "human genome" or "human rights" or "human esophagus" or "human sacrifice" we would not need a discussion about "humanness" for you to understand what I was saying.
Neither do we need it for a discussion of "human being".
Tom

When legal rights are concerned, terms like "human" must be adequately defined. Can you provide a definition?