Sand Dancer
Crazy Cat Lady
This attitude is precisely why I left Christianity. Poor Jesus. He was a rock star, but most of his followers don't even act like him.
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How would you respond to seeing a same-sex couple kissing/ or holding hands ?
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This attitude is precisely why I left Christianity. Poor Jesus. He was a rock star, but most of his followers don't even act like him.
Sand Dancer
Crazy Cat Lady
I'm still confused.
What did your post have to do with the fact that Christianity in general, and Mormonism in particular, are not normal or natural?
That was my point. What is yours?
Tom
Draka
Wonder Woman
Computers aren't natural. Capitalism isn't natural. Taxes aren't natural. Money isn't natural. Clothing isn't natural. Churches aren't natural. Politics aren't natural. Government isn't natural. Marriage isn't natural. Pharmaceuticals aren't natural. Hospitals aren't natural.
Sex is natural. Homosexuality is natural.
If people are going to actually use the "natural" argument in order to validate their own issues with homosexuality then they have quite the misunderstanding of what is and is not "natural".
Sex is natural. Homosexuality is natural.
If people are going to actually use the "natural" argument in order to validate their own issues with homosexuality then they have quite the misunderstanding of what is and is not "natural".
Norman
Defender of Truth
Norman
Defender of Truth
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
How is this even an argument? The world isn't nor would ever be 100% homosexual, so what's your point? And even if it were, people would still breed because even many homosexuals desire children.
By "God's Word" you mean the words of ancient primitives who presumed to speak on his behalf?
@Norman
"You think homosexuality Is normal and religion is not,
ok."
You are still misunderstanding me. Homosexuality is not normal, because most people aren't. Religion is normal, because most people have one. But most people are not any version of Christian, so Christianity is not normal.
The problem is with people confusing normal and/or natural with good and/or moral. They are not related things.
Is this really so hard to understand? Or are you trying so hard to justify what you already believe that you refuse to see this?
Tom
"You think homosexuality Is normal and religion is not,
ok."
You are still misunderstanding me. Homosexuality is not normal, because most people aren't. Religion is normal, because most people have one. But most people are not any version of Christian, so Christianity is not normal.
The problem is with people confusing normal and/or natural with good and/or moral. They are not related things.
Is this really so hard to understand? Or are you trying so hard to justify what you already believe that you refuse to see this?
Tom
Draka
Wonder Woman
I kept wondering about the normal/natural connection. What is "normal" is merely an appeal to numbers or view and may have nothing to do with what is natural. As I pointed out, computers aren't natural, but they are pretty normal to have in our society aren't they?
What does "normal" have to do with this argument anyway?
What does "normal" have to do with this argument anyway?
psychedelicsoul
Active Member
Jesus was a liberal?
Jesus was apolitical. Also, I dislike christians just as much as the gay community.
I'm just pointing out the standard you have to live up to, if you're going to call homosexuality "unnatural". You must have about a dozen kids now, depending on your age.
You know, gay men sometimes have sex with women and lesbians sometimes have sex with men. I'm not talking about while being closeted, either. Sexuality is fluid that way. Humans are a sexually opportunistic species. We're too curious to only have hetero or homo sex and relationships.
Your God, maybe. But not my God. My religion doesn't have any restrictions. I can do whatever the hell I want and my God just smiles at my creativity in "sinfulness".
Paganism is natural, but the Abrahamic religions aren't. No "revealed" religion is natural.
Sand Dancer
Crazy Cat Lady
Jesus was for equality, and freely gave all he had. He healed and fed for free. We need more of those.
psychedelicsoul
Active Member
Yea... but anyone of any political orientation can do that. Jesus didn't really talk that much about government.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Do, teenagers kissing is bad? If so, why?
Tiberius
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
The problem with "normal" and "natural" is the implication that not being that way is "abnormal" and "unnatural".
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
The point is that Jesus loved and accepted people unconditionally, so he wasn't a bigot or a homophobe.
Shame on the hypocritical Christians who don't follow his example.
The problem with the Jesus figure is that he's anything you want him to be. So it's impossible to say who has the "correct" view of Jesus and his teachings. He's one size fits all.