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Watchtower Governing Body: Are They The Exclusive Channel For God??

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katiemygirl

CHRISTIAN
Bible Student said:
Wow! So many demands.Many are not able to respond when you want them to.I leave for days at a time as well due to real life in the real world.
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There's nothing wrong with someone leaving for a few days, but have the decency to answer the people who took the time to respond to you when you do come back.

PS Are you KJW47's lawyer? ;)
 
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Wharton

Active Member
katiemygirl said:
What a ridiculous, and not very well thought out statement to make! Jesus was 100% God and 100% man. It was Jesus, the man, who died, not Jesus who is our God and Savior.
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The natures of Jesus are inseparable. Think. What is Jesus nature in heaven?

God as a person died on the cross.

What is not incarnated is not redeemed/ransomed.

You statement destroys the incarnation.
 
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JFish123

Active Member
kjw47 said:
Taking the name of the Lord your God in vain = representing God to all with words but by actions doing the opposite. It has 0 to do with pronouncing the name.
I am that I am is a mistranslation of the Hebrew--I shall prove to be what I shall prove to be is correct--ask the Hebrews.
I was at Carm.org all the apostate bookwriters who were anti Jw( about 20 of them) ran away when I posted 6 major teachings from Jesus that prove 100% the JW teachers are correct--there is no answer to Jesus' truths.
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I'll answer them :) go ahead and ask away :)
 
kjw47

kjw47

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katiemygirl said:
Oh really?

The answers to my three questions are not on the JW.org website.


Where in Scripture does it say that Jesus' mediatorship is extended outward from the 144,000 anointed to the great crowd.

Where in Scripture does it say the New Covenant is between God and the 144,000 anointed ONLY?

Where in Scripture does it say that only the 144,000 are in heaven?

BOOK, CHAPTER, VERSE --- PLEASE!

Rather than run off for three days, how about being courteous and answer the questions, and then follow through with followups? That's how debate works. Both sides andwers are considered, not just one side.

If YOU are going to post your opinions here, then have the courtesy to address people's posts in a timely manner, and don't ask anyone to go to your JW website for answers.
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1) Luke 10:16
2)The Lords supper--only the anointed teachers were present.
3)Rev 14:3--only the 144,000 are bought from the earth. No where does it say the great crowd go to heaven--it says they stand before the throne( the throne is the only ruling power in existence at that point--it will rule all of creation forever. So what it was saying is that the great crowd will be under Gods kingdom rulership. There will be no more human rulerships( Daniel 2:44)
 
kjw47

kjw47

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djhwoodwerks said:
His body died, but He didn't.

1Pe 3:18-19 (ESVST) 18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison.
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symbolism--Jesus likened death to one being asleep. In the ot it clearly teaches--on the day of ones death--all thought stops.
He was made alive in the spirit--3 days later.
 
kjw47

kjw47

Well-Known Member
djhwoodwerks said:
No, I don't think He was.

Luk 11:12-13 (ESVST) ? 13 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"
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Yes the true followers get HS for reminders and strength--never a revealed truth before the anointed teachers. The anointed teachers( faithful and discreet slave) give food( spiritual) at the proper time--that is how it works.
 
Nada

Nada

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katiemygirl said:
Yes, he stated the reason. He's on eight different forums.
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Wow! Multi tasker like me.Cool!

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Eight arms for 8 different task.
 
kjw47

kjw47

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djhwoodwerks said:
Act 4:11-12 (ESVST) This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. 12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."

Rev 3:11-12 (ESVST) . 12 The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.

That verse is definitely referring to when everything is said and done with and God's kingdom is set up. Notice, "TO THE ONE WHO CONQUERS", that is after the tribulation. But right now, JESUS is the name "ABOVE EVERY NAME". The Bible doesn't lie, does it
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Every one who knows God knows Gods name was not included in that--The Lords prayer--hallowed be thy( Father) name( Jehovah)
Jesus truth--John 17:6,26-- so yes the name must be known and used.
You see while Jesus raised as a spirit, as well raised up to a higher position--has a God, like we do. so yes Gods name is not included in the statements you use.
 
kjw47

kjw47

Well-Known Member
djhwoodwerks said:
You have no idea what I know! I study the Bible with many different resources, I have that privilege. I don't take the word of 8 men sitting in New York that are self proclaimed. JW's don't study the Bible for themselves, they let the GB tell them what to think and believe. You use or have nothing to compare what they say to. I will not put my faith and eternity in the hands of someone like that. Please make YHWH sound like Jehovah without adding vowels to it like the Catholic priest did.
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Then you should not use the name Jesus either, that is his English name of Yeshoua, and the tetra could be YHVH as well.
I attended different denominations of trinity religions in my days, not one taught what Jesus taught.-- I guarantee once one learns what Jesus taught-they know 100% for sure--The JW teachers are his anointed teachers, because they teach all of Jesus truths.
 
kjw47

kjw47

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JFish123 said:
I'll answer them :) go ahead and ask away :)
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If you are a follower of Jesus you should already know his truths, then you would know there are no answers to truth of what he taught. There is only 1 truth, measured in wisdom by the teachings of Jesus.
 
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kjw47 said:
Then you should not use the name Jesus either, that is his English name of Yeshoua, and the tetra could be YHVH as well.
I attended different denominations of trinity religions in my days, not one taught what Jesus taught.-- I guarantee once one learns what Jesus taught-they know 100% for sure--The JW teachers are his anointed teachers, because they teach all of Jesus truths.
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Good comment!:thumbsup:

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