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I am hearing many terms bandied about , ..Secular Buddhism , Moddern Buddhism , ...material Buddhism , ...
please could some one explain what these terms mean , ....and what relationship they hold with the schools of Traditional Buddhism ?
....the schools of Traditional Buddhism ?
I am hearing many terms bandied about , ..Secular Buddhism , Moddern Buddhism , ...material Buddhism , ...
pleaea could some one explain what these terms m.and what relationship they hold with the schools of Traditional Buddhism ?
I am hearing many terms bandied about , ..Secular Buddhism , Moddern Buddhism , ...material Buddhism , ...
please could some one explain what these terms mean , ....and what relationship they hold with the schools of Traditional Buddhism ?
Which ones are those?
I'll give this a shot. I know some may correct me some on this.
Secular Buddhism is, what I read, a "humanist Buddhism." They separate themselves from traditon. Its like protestants coming Catholics. SB still have focus on meditation, four noble truths, etc but do not rely on tradition and culture of the Buddha to shape their worldview.
Secular Buddhism | No Robes. No Ritual. No Religion. (more info)
Modern Buddhism
Buddhism in China, Chinese Buddhism Facts and History (traditional vs. Modern chinese buddhism)
Material Buddhism, which seems so contradictory to the Buddha's teachings. I dont know if there is such thing unless practicioners of this buddhism try to hold possessions but free the mind of attachment of them.
We could take the opportunity to consider that "Traditional Buddhism" means as well, since the expression is sometimes raised.
My take on some of these:
Secular Buddhism - I can't make sense of this one. Buddhism is a religion, secularism is the refusal to get involved in religion, so technically this is a direct contradiction and the expression has no inherent clear meaning.
I figure, however, that for the most part it is supposed to mean actual Dharmic practice, where people develop their own understandings and their own wisdom.
namaskaram luis ji
thankyou yes , but prehaps not yet , let us first collect comments on secular Buddhism , ....
I think I would agree here , however I am not so sure that it is allways an out right refusal , some dont see the nececity at this stage in their practice , ....who knows prehaps they will later ?
but should practitioners not have guidance ? , ...could this style of practice not lead to certain corruptions of the original message of Buddhism ?
I tend to interpret "secular Buddhism" as being Buddhism minus what the person who is using that terminology may think are religious beliefs, such as the belief in various deities, and maybe even certain concepts such as nirvana and karma.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't use that terminology as I prefer just to read the scriptures as they are written, and then letting everyone draw their own interpretations and, even more importantly than that, look at each of these with through their own personal experiences and observations. I couldn't care less what may be "politically correct", if you know what I mean.
For instance anyone that thinks there is any kind of "God" in Buddhism is routinely ridiculed on this forum, but more that one member on this forum claim they are a follower of Buddha, as well as Satan, or Lucifer. How the heck can you come up with that; peace, love, compassion, and Satanism, somehow I think those things just don't go together. Any more than Buddhism and anti-theism go together IMHO.
I'm not familiar with the Lam rim, but I plan on looking it up.namaskaram
metis ji
agreed , ....in many respects all teachings are there for us to contemplate have you read the Lam rim ? these teachings are read and meditated upon over and over again in cyclic motion here it is natural that one will look at each of the 21 teachings through the veil of ones own experience and observations , but by doing so in rotation ones understanding deepens upon each turn . ...this is a more traditional approach , ....
however it is the secular approach that has been mentioned so much recently that interests me and the question of whether it is possible to remove cretain traditional aspects of Buddhism like Rebirth and Karma ?
That's not too bad an overview imo.I'll give this a shot. I know some may correct me some on this.
Traditional Buddhism, as I understand through practice, is rich in culture and tradition. I see this more outside the US. Trad. Buddhist arent evangelical. Zen monks I have met rely on ritual. Many Buddhas are shown in reference. Bowing is important. Ritual language and such.
Secular Buddhism is, what I read, a "humanist Buddhism." They separate themselves from traditon. Its like protestants coming Catholics. SB still have focus on meditation, four noble truths, etc but do not rely on tradition and culture of the Buddha to shape their worldview.
Secular Buddhism | No Robes. No Ritual. No Religion. (more info)
Modern Buddhism
Similar to SB but it is western influenced. Its more recent too. Many Japense Buddhist schools are modern. Nicheren Buddhism is one and all its sects. Its more with the time the sect flourished. Also, they try to keep traditional beliefs, practices that mirror western thinking, and in the west, dropping the culture.
Buddhism in China, Chinese Buddhism Facts and History (traditional vs. Modern chinese buddhism)
Material Buddhism, which seems so contradictory to the Buddha's teachings. I dont know if there is such thing unless practicioners of this buddhism try to hold possessions but free the mind of attachment of them.
What is Secular Buddhism?
It could be anything else than what Buddha himself believed and did.
Regards
Here's an idea: why not ask the folks in the LHP DIR?For instance anyone that thinks there is any kind of "God" in Buddhism is routinely ridiculed on this forum, but I hear people that claim they are a follower of Buddha, as well as Satan, or Lucifer. How the heck can you come up with that: peace, love, compassion, and Satanism, somehow I think those things just don't go together. Any more than Buddhism and anti-theism go together IMHO.