Why are Atheists on Religiousforums?

[outhouse]

Are you capable of 'peaceful dialogue'?

I like Bacon!!!!

 

[outhouse]

no one wants to talk to you.

I still like bacon

 

[Revoltingest]

I still like bacon

Now yer talk'n!

 

[The Neo Nerd]

Why those conceited twats, thinking they know it all. Thank God atheists never have such an inflated opinion of their intellect.

Your sarcasm is noted and appreciated.

However in the atheists defence there are numerous theists on this forum who start threads arguing against scientific subjects that they know nothing about (mostly evolution but not always). Then the atheists take time to educate them about their misconceptions. Then the very same theist creates another thread spewing out the same misconceptions.

These are not debates. The theists in question cannot even get the scientific theory right. So there is nothing to debate against. When the theist does this over and over again they are ignorant, willfully so.

You would say the same thing if an atheist came at you with misconceptions about your religion. And you kept on correcting them. And they just kept coming back at you with the same old misconceptions..

 

[The Neo Nerd]

I came here as a chaote.

But I could not ignore the arguments against my belief.

I stay here because I find religion interesting and for the community as well.

 

[psychoslice]

Sorry.

 

[ether-ore]

Some responses by atheists to this question have been to the effect that they find religion interesting or that they wish to educate those they find to be so ignorant. One came closer to the truth about why atheists come to religious/religion forums, and that is for political reasons. There is the desire among atheists to silence religious thought as it pertains to moral and political issues through the use of mockery and ridicule. Reason never really enters the discussion except in the form of mockery or ridicule. The thing about reason is that there must be information provided on which to apply reason and there is no common ground from which atheists and theists to reason together.

Atheists require that reason can only be from the empirical. Never mind the fact that most atheists are relying on the empiricism of some few others, thus exercising 'faith' in someone else's work. Theists on the other hand can rely on empirical evidence but are not restricted by it. Theists, too rely on the empirical evidence of others. These others are called prophets who claim to have empirically witnessed either evidence of God or God Himself and have written this information down in the form of scripture. But more than that, theists rely on personal spiritual confirmation through humble prayer that what the prophets have said is true. This thing about being in tune with the spirit is something that is totally alien to atheists. This is what Christ meant when He said that He was the light that shined in darkness and the darkness comprehended Him not.

The problem for the theist is in the correlation of scientific evidence and theological evidence. This is manifestly difficult, but where it can be done, it is done. All theists do not reject the evidence of science except where correlations cannot be made due to a lack compatible information. Here is the rub: The theist will give preference to his faith, whereas, the atheist will give preference to his. For the theist, this lack of compatible information signals the need to hold such things in suspense until further information is provided. Day to day living goes on and is not necessarily dependent on some such issues. Herein lies the second rub: The theist recognizes the natural law which dictates that certain behaviors are detrimental to a harmonious society's perpetuation. Atheists, on the other hand, reject the notion of natural law itself as well as its supports in scripture and promote the idea that no behaviors (or very few of them) are inherently evil or wrong. This is the source of the real reason atheists come in religious forums; to push their ideas for a different moral code which the theists will inevitably find as detrimental to society.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Some responses by atheists to this question have been to the effect that they find religion interesting or that they wish to educate those they find to be so ignorant. One came closer to the truth about why atheists come to religious/religion forums, and that is for political reasons. There is the desire among atheists to silence religious thought as it pertains to moral and political issues through the use of mockery and ridicule. Reason never really enters the discussion except in the form of mockery or ridicule. The thing about reason is that there must be information provided on which to apply reason and there is no common ground from which atheists and theists to reason together.

Atheists require that reason can only be from the empirical. Never mind the fact that most atheists are relying on the empiricism of some few others, thus exercising 'faith' in someone else's work. Theists on the other hand can rely on empirical evidence but are not restricted by it. Theists, too rely on the empirical evidence of others. These others are called prophets who claim to have empirically witnessed either evidence of God or God Himself and have written this information down in the form of scripture. But more than that, theists rely on personal spiritual confirmation through humble prayer that what the prophets have said is true. This thing about being in tune with the spirit is something that is totally alien to atheists. This is what Christ meant when He said that He was the light that shined in darkness and the darkness comprehended Him not.

The problem for the theist is in the correlation of scientific evidence and theological evidence. This is manifestly difficult, but where it can be done, it is done. All theists do not reject the evidence of science except where correlations cannot be made due to a lack compatible information. Here is the rub: The theist will give preference to his faith, whereas, the atheist will give preference to his. For the theist, this lack of compatible information signals the need to hold such things in suspense until further information is provided. Day to day living goes on and is not necessarily dependent on some such issues. Herein lies the second rub: The theist recognizes the natural law which dictates that certain behaviors are detrimental to a harmonious society's perpetuation. Atheists, on the other hand, reject the notion of natural law itself as well as its supports in scripture and promote the idea that no behaviors (or very few of them) are inherently evil or wrong. This is the source of the real reason atheists come in religious forums; to push their ideas for a different moral code which the theists will inevitably find as detrimental to society.

Oh my goodness, not another one.

I'll play a game with you. Tell me something meaningful that pertains to all theists. Because that's roughly the level of commonality you'll find with atheists.

If I have one more person tell me I'm a communist, or a dialetical materialist, or immoral, or here to recruit, or an anti-theist, or....I mean, just BAH!

 

[outhouse]

One came closer to the truth about why atheists come to religious/religion forums, and that is for political reasons.

I find that to be simply ridiculous. Of all the atheist here, and I know most of them, not ONE is here for political reasons.

So I will ask you to start substantiating your claims with credible sources right here and now.

There is the desire among atheists to silence religious thought as it pertains to moral and political issues through the use of mockery and ridicule.

Start substantiating your claim with credible sources.


We fight fanaticism and fundamentalism as it is the enemy of humanity. And we need not mock or ridicule those who refuse knowledge, they do a fine job all by themselves.

Much of what many educated theist have long abandoned. There is no atheist theism separation here, its education and those who refuse it.

These others are called prophets who claim to have empirically witnessed either evidence of God or God Himself and have written this information down in the form of scripture.

Unsubstantiated rhetoric

But more than that, theists rely on personal spiritual confirmation through humble prayer that what the prophets have said is true.

Unsubstantiated rhetoric

This is the source of the real reason atheists come in religious forums; to push their ideas for a different moral code which the theists will inevitably find as detrimental to society

Unsubstantiated rhetoric, with no credible examples or sources provided.


Welcome, stick around and enjoy your religious education handed to you by people of all kinds.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Because I want to make friends!

Wait, I 'm not atheist

 

[FearGod]

To annoy religionists?
To become religionists?

Evils actually exist everywhere, i don't mean that all atheists are evils but some of them are.

 

[NoX]

Because atheism is also a religion, its a religion with one certain rule, "there is no rule."

 

[Jumi]

One came closer to the truth about why atheists come to religious/religion forums, and that is for political reasons. There is the desire among atheists to silence religious thought as it pertains to moral and political issues through the use of mockery and ridicule.

Are you saying all atheists have a political agenda? We don't.

Atheists require that reason can only be from the empirical. Never mind the fact that most atheists are relying on the empiricism of some few others, thus exercising 'faith' in someone else's work. Theists on the other hand can rely on empirical evidence but are not restricted by it. Theists, too rely on the empirical evidence of others.

There's no need for faith in atheism. We don't need to be scientists to not believe or believe what we do.

 

[LuisDantas]

Evils actually exist everywhere, i don't mean that all atheists are evils but some of them are.

"Some" of us are pretty much anything that people can be, I suppose.

But saying it the way you just did often gives a mistaken impression that there is a significant positive correlation between atheism and "being evil".

And that, frankly, is the opposite of truth far as I can tell.

 

[LuisDantas]

Because atheism is also a religion, its a religion with one certain rule, "there is no rule."

Good thing you have an emoticon there.

 

[psychoslice]

Because atheism is also a religion, its a religion with one certain rule, "there is no rule."

But that's not a religion.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Because atheism is also a religion,

Oh no it isn't....

 

[JoStories]

Evils actually exist everywhere, i don't mean that all atheists are evils but some of them are.

More people who claim to be religious are more 'evil' than atheists. And btw, define evil and how it manifests scientifically, making sure you differentiate that from people simply making extremely bad choices.

Should remember to proof read, even here!

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Because atheism is also a religion, its a religion with one certain rule, "there is no rule."

Who has no rules? My life is full of them.
*shrugs*

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Evils actually exist everywhere, i don't mean that all atheists are evils but some of them are.

Yep, some are. Some aren't. This sentence ALSO makes sense;
Evils actually exist everywhere, i don't mean that all theists are evils but some of them are.