Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Yes, you have, and yes you have still not gotten around to the question I have asked you twice already and will now ask you a third time: Is each one fully God, independent of the others? Or do you need all three to have one God?
I completely agree with that statement.
To you, maybe. I think it would make a lot more sense to just say that the word "God" (which, I'm sure you'll agree, is a proper noun) is also a collective noun.
This is not a good example. For starters, a single drop of water is in no way, shape or form a plural word. Secondly, it water can exist in three states, as you said, but it cannot exist in these three states simultaneously. The water analogy simply doesn't work when it comes to the Trinity, because all three (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) exist simultaneously.
That's fine. I believe the concept of three divine beings, perfectly united in will, purpose, mind and heart and known both individually and collectively as "God" is most certainly taught in the Bible. What I object to is not the use of the word "Trinity," but to the terminology used in some of the creeds. None of this terminology is biblically based or supported. These creeds were written by men with a foundation in Greek philosophical thought and who defined the God of the Bible in such a way that He could be considered legitimately "God" to the educated, non-Hebrew people of the fourth and fifth centuries.
And that is exactly how Mormons baptize.
You absolutely did. And in case you don't believe I'm being honest about my denomination's teachings, here's what "The Book of Mormon: says on the subject:
And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end.
And from "The Doctrine and Covenants," we have the words of Jesus Christ, speaking of His atoning sacrifice, and referring to himself as "God":
For behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent; But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I; Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit—and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink— Nevertheless, glory be to the Father, and I partook and finished my preparations unto the children of men.
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