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When Should Women Obey Their Husbands?
- Thread starter Sunstone
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God said? Do you know what agnostic means?
When will people learn to say "it is written" or "God's Word says" and not "God says". I think the only thing that God ever said was "this is my son, the beloved, listen to him" and some thunder.
Did Jesus ever say "God says"?
Did Jesus ever say "God says"?
Skwim
Veteran Member
Yup. Ever hear of a devils advocate?
Because they don't mean to say "it is written" or "God's Word says," but "God says." I know it may be disturbing that not everyone agrees with your reading of the Bible, but that's life.
Don't really know. Is it important?
Interesting word choice.
Like maybe they are in the presence of God? I do not believe it.
Disturbing? No. But stupid? Yes.
Nobody agrees with my reading of the Bible.
I think if "God's Word" never says "God says" it's important. Where did they learn it? Not from God's Word. And according to them there is just one other source and we KNOW what God's Word says about it.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Actually it comes from the Latin advocatus diaboli. You do recognize it as an age-old concept don't you?
"The background of this word comes from an official position within the Catholic Church, in which a canon lawyer called the Devil's Advocate, also known as the Promoter of Faith, "argued against the canonization (sainthood) of a candidate in order to uncover any character flaws or misrepresentation evidence favoring canonization."
(source: Wikipedia)
(source: Wikipedia)
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
It says it in mine. Anyway, so what?Anyone wishing to learn anything has to do a certain amount of leg work.
No it does not say that they were the ''first''.
But you would have to understand who and what the Adam and Chavvah are in the first place to coimment on such things.
Agian, not in mine it doesn't, and again, one has to look deeper. It is written that way because it shows higher things which are intuitively known.
As the divine word is reflective and fractal in action, you will see that the earth was covered in its early development with water, as indeed it was 'snowball earth'.
It is not saying that as I have already told you. It is speaking of a people on a land a few thousand years ago.
It does.
Myth can also mean an ancient story. If you mean from that point of view, then fine. If you are saying that it is not right, then you need more than what you have just given. You are speaking now of Scripture. Scripture is not read in the normal fashion, which I think is your mistake.
Fooled from its original state if one wants the original meaning. But the Spirit is living and active now, and God is an evolving consciousness, which also has to be understood.
They don't ''know'' it is just myth; and all of us to one degree or another will go into the fires that cleanse. To burn something is to burn off what is not correct.
That is spiritual discernment and it might be different for each one as we all have our own reality which we all in turn answer for.
The virgin birth is speaking of something higher, as all things are, such as the flood.
I don't see why you think they are hypocrites... don't see the link. You atheist views are your own, and you, as I, will answer for every action and every word. That is the way it is. But you must not mistake reading the bible as being something anyone can do. It is hard enough for those who know, let alone those who don't.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Not quite as simple as that as they are not called commandments.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Why does it make a difference if they're called commandments or not? Are the only pronouncements in the Bible worth heeding those that are called commandments?
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Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Oh I don't say we don't take heed of them, but I am just saying it is not that simple. An umbrella one day might be a good idea, but the next, a bad idea. But it is with what spirit we take it in that counts. If we take it to the letter of the written word, we are restricted, as all things cannot be covered in a book. Also the written word can be ambiguous. The Spirit is the one that guides us through this.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Except for those regarded as commandments I presume.
And you think everyone deserving of guidance is guided the same? The thousands of Christian denominations argues against such a thing. Of course, I imagine that every guided soul, like yourself, is sure that they're being guided correctly, unlike the poor soul next door who has been led astray. Makes one wonder why god would have done such a thing, sent a message that he knew would be so misconstrued as to lead people down the wrong path; leaving only a chosen few, very few, such as yourself on the right path. Gotta wonder, don't ya, why you, out of thousands of other Christ seeking Christians, were shown the way while the others have been sent on a wild goose chase.
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Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Haha.... yeah it seems strange at first I must agree. But when you realise there are many different realities, then it is not a problem. Not that you're probably interested, but I remember seeing an old woman at a group meeting I went to a few years ago. As I knew she would not believe everything I would have, I wondered how it is that she still could not be saved. After all, it was evening, and of all the people there with a good excuse to stop at home, surely it was her. It troubled me greatly at the time. She did after all believe.
Well the answer is long and boring, but there are many different levels of reality, and we are all on a journey to get through them. Her reality was not mine, but she will be saved as I, as any will that believe. God acts in a reflective way you see; thus there is, in simple terms, many Gods, (though in reality there is only One).
Sha'irullah
رسول الآلهة
A good wife knows that to make her husband happy means to be submissive and obedient to him. Obedience in terms of marriage should be unconditional since it allows for the male to pursue a life outside of the home with no stress
Are you trolling?
A good dog obeys the owner. Are we comparing wives to dogs, and husbands to owners now?
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
It says it in mine. Anyway, so what?Anyone wishing to learn anything has to do a certain amount of leg work.
No it does not say that they were the ''first''.
But you would have to understand who and what the Adam and Chavvah are in the first place to coimment on such things.
Agian, not in mine it doesn't, and again, one has to look deeper. It is written that way because it shows higher things which are intuitively known.
As the divine word is reflective and fractal in action, you will see that the earth was covered in its early development with water, as indeed it was 'snowball earth'.
It is not saying that as I have already told you. It is speaking of a people on a land a few thousand years ago.
It does.
Myth can also mean an ancient story. If you mean from that point of view, then fine. If you are saying that it is not right, then you need more than what you have just given. You are speaking now of Scripture. Scripture is not read in the normal fashion, which I think is your mistake.
Fooled from its original state if one wants the original meaning. But the Spirit is living and active now, and God is an evolving consciousness, which also has to be understood.
They don't ''know'' it is just myth; and all of us to one degree or another will go into the fires that cleanse. To burn something is to burn off what is not correct.
That is spiritual discernment and it might be different for each one as we all have our own reality which we all in turn answer for.
The virgin birth is speaking of something higher, as all things are, such as the flood.
I don't see why you think they are hypocrites... don't see the link. You atheist views are your own, and you, as I, will answer for every action and every word. That is the way it is. But you must not mistake reading the bible as being something anyone can do. It is hard enough for those who know, let alone those who don't.
And EVERYTHING you have said here concerning these stories is SPECULATION on your part.
The Bible does not say what you are alluding to.
So stop trying to put it in that - this is the way it is - you just don't understand - CRAP!
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Sha'irullah
رسول الآلهة
and then you woke up.
I never wake up! I sleep 23 hours and 56 minutes a day! My entire life is a dream!
So shut up you disobedient figment of my imagination
Sha'irullah
رسول الآلهة
Traditionally a husband was a owner and for the most part should remain one. The wife is indeed property of the husband and this is a traditional value which should be acknowledged. It is of the duty of the husband to protect the wife along with everything he owns
I never wake up! I sleep 23 hours and 56 minutes a day! My entire life is a dream!
So shut up you disobedient figment of my imagination
what did you say? I was busy making u a sammich!
Sha'irullah
رسول الآلهة
what did you say? I was busy making u a sammich!
You better put pickles in that thing! And hold the grass!
. . . for real though when my parents worked in a restaurant a customer told em to "put none of dat pale grass on my hamburger." Like WTF!