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Jesus did not die on the Cross

Muffled

Jesus in me
The Truth has been made known through the scriptures of the Old and New Testaments. If you would take the time to look carefully you will discover this for yourself. What becomes ever increasingly obvious from the comparisons made between the Qur'an and the Bible is that the two are not compatible. Either the Bible has been grossly distorted (to the point of shredding) or the Qur'an is a false prophecy. A mixture of the two is plainly not consistent or possible.

I believe it is not a good idea to judge by appearances and even more so when ther appears to be a contradiction.

I believe the two are compatible and there are no contradictions.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Haha there's no logical reason why Jesus would want to go to India unless it was to learn how to make vindaloos!
You'll be telling us next he went to America to go into shrimping..:)
If he had, the gospels would say-

"And Jesus said to the crowds- 'There's a million ways to cook shrimp..You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it, there's shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich..."
there's no logical reason why Jesus would want to go to India

Is any rational reason mentioned by Jesus that barred him from going to India. Please quote from Jesus.

Regards
 

Harikrish

Active Member
If Jesus quotes are the basis for argument, there are no such quotes mentioning that Jesus was ever in India.

Saint Thomas one of his disciples even built a church on the souther west coast of India in Kerala. He was buried there as well. So Jesus and his disciples were quite familiar with India. India was a well established country with open borders because it was the centre of the spice trade.
 
I believe this is a misinterpretation. God is a Spirit so He is everywhere. The idea of residence as in a finite entity being in one place does not exist with God so the concept is mostly metaphoric.

I believe there is no evidence to support that satement.

I believe Jesus ascended into the heavens but I don't think it has anything to do with being a Christian per se.
That is incorrect brother.God the Almighty is not everywhere.He is not omnipresnt.He resides in the Heavens of Heavens,meaning a lofty place.His holy spirit is God's active force that is everywhere doing the will of God.

1 Kings 8:39 then may you hear from the heavens, your dwelling place, and may you forgive and take action; and reward each one according to all his ways, for you know his heart (you alone truly know every human heart),

It explains where He is.

2 Chronicles 6:33 may you then listen from the heavens, your dwelling place, and do all that the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name+ and fear you, as your people Israel do, and may know that your name has been called on this house that I have built.

Dwelling:a house, apartment, or other place of residence.


2 Chronicles 6:18 “But will God really dwell with mankind on the earth? Look! The heavens, yes, the heaven of the heavens, cannot contain you; how much less, then, this house that I have built!



Here is some more helpful information

“God is a Spirit,” says the Bible. (John 4:24) Therefore, he resides in a spiritual realm independent of the physical universe. When the Bible refers to “the heavens” as God’s dwelling place, it is referring to the loftiness of the place where he resides in contrast with the material environment in which we reside. In any event, the Bible teaches that God’s abode is, indeed, clearly distinguished from the physical universe but is at the same time a very specific location.—Job 2:1-2.


Is God Everywhere? — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 

1robin

Christian/Baptist
No one has any way of knowing, all we have is a storied account.
Well what we do have is the unanimous consent of all the earliest sources to death by crucifixion. We also have a consensus among NT historians that Jesus died on the cross.

The only thing Islam has is Uthman's version of something a very questionable Muhammad claimed about an event that occurred 400 plus years before he lived.

And if the Quran is right that it only appeared they crucified him then that makes Allah the creator of the Christian faith based on a lie he did not bother to correct for 500 years. So most likely Muhammad was completely wrong and contradicts the best sources possible or Allah is truly the best of schemers and created a false religion as a joke.
 
It is written by the sinful scribes, neither by Moses nor by Jesus.

Regards
All men are sinners.Except Jesus.You are incorrect.It was written by Moses.This was done over 2500 years before Mohammed invented Islam.It began in 1513 B.C.E.Islam was invented in the 7th century,the 600's.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
It is written by the sinful scribes, neither by Moses nor by Jesus.

What is the difference ???


Your books was plagiarized by a warrior pedophile who had to spread his religion with a sword :slap:


Moses did not even exist as written, you factually follow mythology.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Did you know one if Jesus's disciples Saint Thomas died in India?

Not true.

You cannot prove anything but MAYBE a man named Thomas was there.

Date Is also up for debate, with nothing at all conforming early first century.


Disciple is factually unknown.
 
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