What are the Central Positive Messages you Learned from the Quran?

[DawudTalut]

Hi DawudTalut,

Can you offer peaceful messages that you learned from the scripture *in your own words* - i.e., without quoting from scripture?

Peace be on you.

Humbly saying that what I have learnt from Holy Quran by the grace of Allah the Exalted [through explanations of Blesseds: Holy Prophet, his subservient Promised Messiah Mahdi and Khulafa (Successors)]:

"Through following Holy Quran: seek peace with Allah the Exalted, by paying His rights and seek peace with all creature of Allah the Exalted, by paying their rights."

 

[sun rise]

Peace be on you.
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Secular Viewpoints Examined @ https://www.alislam.org/library/books/revelation/part_3_section_1.html
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Thanks.

I don't have a lot of time but did quickly read the secular link. While most of what is there I can agree with, I did want to mention that greed can motivate worship. There are those who ask God to fulfill not only their needs but also their wants. And a old theme of being a "God fearing" worshiper has been very common in Christianity. I quite like what Rabia of Basra said about this level of worship:

"O God! If I worship You for fear of Hell, burn me in Hell,
and if I worship You in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise.
But if I worship You for Your Own sake,
grudge me not Your everlasting Beauty.”

But what I really agree with is the resistance of the old to something new. Change can be frightening to start with. And when that change challenges those with power and prestige, strong opposition is inevitable. And I really agree with the discussion about how a real or de-facto priesthood can twist the teachings until they become the very opposite of what they should be. And how, over time, the fresh breeze brought to Earth dissipates and must be renewed.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

to --Draupadi wrot --
<There is a verse in the Quran that asks men who are disappointed with their wives not to despair>
please you must read the verse that say beating the wife ---
pleas read your qouran good ---
the womn is loss mind--
and two witness for woman equail one man --
please read your book

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

to brother kashmir you wrote --
<I can understand @mahasn ebn sawresho
How come all the attacking on him instead of refuting his arguments?>



Yes that's right ---
Not be able to respond -
Attacking a person ----
They have to discuss with the thought of thought
Thank you

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

to --sunrise123---
the Literal translation of the Koran by voice -A significant problem ---
For example, translation of the word vagina and the word **** written in the Koran ---
And also some other words that are not of the Arabic language such as ream and Hell and Paradise and phase
I hope that notes the word **** in the Koran ---
In the Arabic version of the No problem with it, but the translation is a big problem ---

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

to --DawudTalut -he wrote ---in post 121
"Through following Holy Quran: seek peace with Allah the Exalted, by paying His rights and seek peace with all creature of Allah the Exalted by paying their rights.">====
i think you must get to me the province ---
1- are there any justice between muslime and non muslim in qouran ---do you know the meaning of <al-thmee> --
this principle
is say
al -thmee paying the
Tribute
Who does not believe in Islam is a second-class citizen in the State of Islam -Where is the justice my friend ---
I can proof of Koranic verses

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

o --DawudTalut -he wrote ---in post 121
seek peace with all
But for any peace ---
What is the definition of peace in Islam
are thIs verse meaning peace
<And who fought to not believe in God and the Day of the other until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued>==
Did you read the famous talk about Muhammad saying ---
Ordered to fight the people until they say no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of God ---
Did you read all sorts of Jihad in Islam ----
i think the Definition of peace in Islam -
is to Be judged for Muslims in all worlds ---
if you want to read about this --

read the concept house of peace and house war in Islamic jurisprudence --, (&#1583;&#1575;&#1585; &#1575;&#1604;&#1581;&#1585;&#1576; &#1608;&#1583;&#1575;&#1585; &#1575;&#1604;&#1587;&#1604;&#1575;&#1605; )-

 

[Draupadi]

Yes there are some verses in the Quran that says bad things about the women. But the OP asked the good stuff because he had already opened one about the negative verses in the Quran. That's why I answered. I don't see anything wrong in admitting the good stuff if it is there.

And as for beating the wives please see this- Quran-Islam.org - True Islam

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Draupadi wrote
<Yes there are some verses in the Quran that says bad things about the women. But the OP asked the good stuff because he had already opened one about the negative verses in the Quran. That's why I answered. I don't see anything wrong in admitting the good stuff if it is there.

And as for beating the wives please see this->
No my leady
Koran the word of God as you say ---
there must not permitted to be a bad thingWife-beating
Is a state independent from the Koran ---
Why God commands the wife beating -
Are men better than??/
Ask you a question which you and some embarrassment to every lady in this forum ---
Enjoy your husband in Paradise Bhoriat many ---
What are you doing in paradise ---?
Do you know your spouse's rights in paradise ---
Nymphs and collapsed vintage everlasting youth and young men ---
Is Schrbin wine in paradise with your spouse
Or with nymphs&#1567;

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

islam says you are Minus of mind and religion --
do believe--
in that your mind less from man ---

A woman is representing life in all pagan religions
Only Islam says about irrational ---
I do not know where is your dignity her

 

[DawudTalut]

to --DawudTalut -he wrote ---in post 121
"Through following Holy Quran: seek peace with Allah the Exalted, by paying His rights and seek peace with all creature of Allah the Exalted by paying their rights.">====
i think you must get to me the province ---
1- are there any justice between muslime and non muslim in qouran ---do you know the meaning of <al-thmee> --
this principle
is say
al -thmee paying the
Tribute
Who does not believe in Islam is a second-class citizen in the State of Islam -Where is the justice my friend ---


I can proof of Koranic verses

Peace be on you.

GENERAL TEACHING OF HOLY QURAN

[chapter 4: verse 59] Verily, Allah commands you to make over the trusts to those entitled to them, and that, when you judge between men, you judge with justice. And surely excellent is that with which Allah admonishes you! Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing.

[5:9] O ye who believe! be steadfast in the cause of Allah, bearing witness in equity; and let not a people’s enmity incite you to act otherwise than with justice. Be always just, that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah. Surely, Allah is aware of what you do.

[16:91] Verily, Allah enjoins justice, and the doing of good to others; and giving like kindred; and forbids indecency, and manifest evil, and wrongful transgression. He admonished you that you may take heed.



NOT GENERAL - SPECIAL LIMITED VERSES FOR THE SITUATION AFTER MECCA FELL

Friend you are welcome to:
https://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=863&region=E1&CR=EN,E2

for better learning of the Holy Quran.
Thanks.

 

[outhouse]

islam says you are Minus of mind and religion --
do believe--
in that your mind less from man ---

A woman is representing life in all pagan religions
Only Islam says about irrational ---
I do not know where is your dignity her

LEARN HOW TO USE THE QUOTE FEATURE

And stop the hate replies

 

[sun rise]

Yes there are some verses in the Quran that says bad things about the women. But the OP asked the good stuff because he had already opened one about the negative verses in the Quran. That's why I answered. I don't see anything wrong in admitting the good stuff if it is there.

And as for beating the wives please see this- Quran-Islam.org - True Islam

That's a great link. Thanks for providing it. I have a large number of links bookmarked to various religions and I'm going to add that one.

Some people have a tendency to pull things out of context in order to distort the meaning of the whole. It is, for example, possible to do the same things with the Bible.

I'm not an Arabic speaker, but I have been aware of how many meanings can be derived from a single word ever since I read Idres Shah's "The Sufis" many years ago.

Also, there are some who want to hijack discussion threads for other purposes and sometimes the best approach is to ignore the attempt especially if the person persists in that attempt.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

That's a great link. Thanks for providing it. I have a large number of links bookmarked to various religions and I'm going to add that one.

Some people have a tendency to pull things out of context in order to distort the meaning of the whole. It is, for example, possible to do the same things with the Bible.

I'm not an Arabic speaker, but I have been aware of how many meanings can be derived from a single word ever since I read Idres Shah's "The Sufis" many years ago.

Also, there are some who want to hijack discussion threads for other purposes and sometimes the best approach is to ignore the attempt especially if the person persists in that attempt.

I speak Arabic ---
And type in Arabic also ---
And understand the meaning of the Koran well ---.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

LEARN HOW TO USE THE QUOTE FEATURE

And stop the hate replies

What is hate, my friend ---
If I said that the Christ &#1575;his acts is 1+1++!---
and this written in the Gospel why i am angered ---
I just learn and convey my knowledge ---

 

[DawudTalut]

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Did you read all sorts of Jihad in Islam ----

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Peace be on you.

Various Types of Jihad in Islam : Ahmadiyya Muslim Understanding

QUOTE:
""
Jihad - Supreme Efforts in the Way of Allah (Guidance from Holy Qur'an)

Jihad with Sword

Jihad of the Pen

The Holy War (from An Elementary Study of Islam)

British Government and Jihad

Jihad - The True Islamic Concept Excerpts from the writings of The Founder of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community

The True Islamic Concept of Jihad by Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmadrh

What is Jihad? - Ahmadis Believe in Jihad

Fighting in the Cause of Allah (from Essence of Islam - Vol. 2)

Welcome the Second Coming (Saying of The Holy Prophet (pbuh))

Some Writings of Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (1835-1908) (The Promised Messiah, peace be on him)

Why Muslims took up the sword? (Malfoozat)

Pen to fight pen (Malfoozat)

Jihad against the British Government in India? (Opinion of the Muslim Scholars)

"Suspension of Jihad" (from Truth About Ahmadiyya)

Islam and Terrorism

Terrorism of the Worst Type (from Murder in the Name of Allah)

Comparative Religious Teachings on WAR AND PEACE (from Life of Muhammad)

The Question of Divided Loyalty Some Parallels From History

Fundamental versus Allegoric: War and Peace in Islam by Zia H Shah, MD

Read more on Jihad - A Misunderstood Concept - Islam and Terrorism ""

Source: https://www.alislam.org/jihad/

 

[DawudTalut]

islam says you are Minus of mind and religion --
do believe--
in that your mind less from man ---

A woman is representing life in all pagan religions
Only Islam says about irrational ---
I do not know where is your dignity her

Peace be on everyone.

QUOTE

STATUS OF WOMEN IN ISLAM

It is misunderstood that Islam neglects women and does not give them any rights, or women are considered inferior to men. It is due to a lack of Islamic knowledge. If the Holy Qur&#8217;an and sayings of the Holy Prophet of Islam are studied, it becomes very clear that it is Islam which has really elevated the status of women. Before Islam, women were sold as personal commodities. Female children were buried alive because they were considered as a curse for the family. But it is Islam which gave every respect and honor to women and brought them at the level of men; otherwise women were mistreated in every sphere of life. In Islam, a woman enjoys equal status with a man. The object of her creation, her duty to God and her duty to fellow human beings, is the same as that of a man.


Islam has not only made women heirs to property, but has given them equal rights with men, but not in a manner that would disregard the distinctive features of their anatomy and their exclusive responsibilities in
the rearing and nursing of children.


In the time of the Holy Prophet and his successors, Muslim women went to mosques, performed pilgrimage, observed fast and gave charity in the cause of God out of their personal property and income. They accompanied men to the battlefield and provided water and tended the wounded, some even took part in actual combat. All this was done
more than fourteen hundred years ago when not a single woman in any part of the world had raised a voice against her plight. Islam has always provided equal rights and equal opportunities for men and women, as the Holy Qur&#8217;an says:

Surely, men who submit themselves (to God) and women who submit themselves (to Him) , and believing men and believing women, and obedient men and obedient women, and truthful men and truthful women, and men steadfast (in their faith) and steadfast women, and men who are humble and women who are humble, and men who give alms and women who give alms, and men who fast and women who fast, and men who guard their chastity and women who guard their chastity, and men who remember Allah much and women who remember (Him) -- Allah has prepared for (all of) them forgiven and a great reward. (33:36)

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It is the duty of every Muslim man and Muslim woman to seek knowledge.

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Woman as Mother
Woman as Wife
Woman as Daughter
Segregation of the Sexes [genders]

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Source: https://www.alislam.org/books/ahmadiyyat/WelcomeBook2ndEd.pdf [from page 434 onward especially]

More
= Muhammad (pbuh) - The Liberator of Women
https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Muhammad-the-liberator-of-women.html

= https://www.alislam.org/r.php?q=woman&sa=

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Peace be on you.

Various Types of Jihad in Islam : Ahmadiyya Muslim Understanding

QUOTE:
""
Jihad - Supreme Efforts in the Way of Allah (Guidance from Holy Qur'an)

Jihad with Sword

Jihad of the Pen

The Holy War (from An Elementary Study of Islam)

British Government and Jihad

Jihad - The True Islamic Concept Excerpts from the writings of The Founder of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community

The True Islamic Concept of Jihad by Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmadrh

What is Jihad? - Ahmadis Believe in Jihad

Fighting in the Cause of Allah (from Essence of Islam - Vol. 2)

Welcome the Second Coming (Saying of The Holy Prophet (pbuh))

Some Writings of Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (1835-1908) (The Promised Messiah, peace be on him)

Why Muslims took up the sword? (Malfoozat)

Pen to fight pen (Malfoozat)

Jihad against the British Government in India? (Opinion of the Muslim Scholars)

"Suspension of Jihad" (from Truth About Ahmadiyya)

Islam and Terrorism

Terrorism of the Worst Type (from Murder in the Name of Allah)

Comparative Religious Teachings on WAR AND PEACE (from Life of Muhammad)

The Question of Divided Loyalty Some Parallels From History

Fundamental versus Allegoric: War and Peace in Islam by Zia H Shah, MD

Read more on Jihad - A Misunderstood Concept - Islam and Terrorism ""

Source: https://www.alislam.org/jihad/

thank you my friend ---
that is right --
there is two kind of jehad --








Jihad self
Jihad and money
There are other types of jihad ----
Jihad such as the sheriff and the obligatory Jihad ---
So Jihad constant ----
To prevail in the world of Islam ----
So this is true ---

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Inheritance women inherit half the share of men
[FONT=&quot]Allah instructs you concerning your children: for the male, what is equal to the share of two females. But if there are [only] daughters, two or more, for them is two thirds of one's estate. And if there is only one, for her is half. And for one's parents, to each one of them is a sixth of his estate if he left children. But if he had no children and the parents [alone] inherit from him, then for his mother is one third. And if he had brothers [or sisters], for his mother is a sixth, after any bequest he [may have] made or [/FONT][FONT=&quot]debt[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]. Your parents or your children - you know not which of them are nearest to you in benefit. [These shares are] an obligation [imposed] by Allah . Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.[/FONT]

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

and here order from god to beating the wife ---and anothere verse --i would get from qouran
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[FONT=&quot]Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their [/FONT][FONT=&quot]wealth[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.[/FONT]