Genesis 2

[outhouse]

----still doesn't validate their conclusions.

Says you. And you have no authority of amy kind. You have not refuted a single word


This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, theist included, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.

You don't have to like the truth, or be part of the majority.


IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.

 

[outhouse]

Try this.


Evolution is a Fact and a Theory

Evolution is a Fact and a Theory


Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.

 

[sincerly]

'
Originally Posted by the IAP statement
Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
''''Originally Posted by sincerly
[color-red]those Scientist acknowledge that many details for their conclusions are lacking.[/color]

Says you. And you have no authority of amy kind. You have not refuted a single word

Not "says" I, but Admits they. I see you are still covering your eyes so that you can't see/understand.

Try this.

Evolution is a Fact and a Theory

You posted it previously--or don't you remember? That site had the "silly if one doesn't accept" their conclusions when not fully proved.---you know-- still lacks those unanswered "details".

 

[outhouse]

Evolution is Fact. You will have to deal with it. The world is never going back to a creationist view for any origins of man.

You have no brought one bit of real evidence towards your position.

 

[outhouse]

Evolution is a Fact and a Theory

Evolution is a Fact and a Theory


Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.

 

[Thief]

Evolution is Fact. You will have to deal with it. The world is never going back to a creationist view for any origins of man.

You have no brought one bit of real evidence towards your position.

Evolution is a theory.
God did it.
See Genesis.

 

[Bunyip]

Evolution is a theory.
God did it.
See Genesis.

No, evolution is a fact. An observable, proven fact.

The Theory of Evolution is the scientific theory that explains the facts.

Such a simple concept, but it seems impossible for you to grasp.

So let me repeat; Evolution is a proven fact, the Theory of Evolution explains the facts.

Theories explain facts.

 

[Desert Snake]

No, evolution is a fact. An observable, proven fact.

So is intelligent design.



p.s. actually evolution is a theory but i'm not interested in arguing semantics

 

[Thief]

No, evolution is a fact. An observable, proven fact.

The Theory of Evolution is the scientific theory that explains the facts.

Such a simple concept, but it seems impossible for you to grasp.

So let me repeat; Evolution is a proven fact, the Theory of Evolution explains the facts.

Theories explain facts.

Theory is the explanation....true.
The proof of experiment renders the fact.

We should then be saying the Fact of evolution....and the word theory should be dropped altogether.

And I don't have a problem with evolution.
God did it.

 

[Bunyip]

So is intelligent design.

If so it has yet to be established or evidenced. As opposed to evolution which has been observed, demonstrated and evidenced.

p.s. actually evolution is a theory but i'm not interested in arguing semantics

Evolution is a fact, theories explain facts. Why that is so difficult to grasp I can't imagine.

 

[Desert Snake]

Evolution is a fact, theories explain facts. Why that is so difficult to grasp I can't imagine.

Theories explain theories.

 

[Bunyip]

Theory is the explanation....true.
The proof of experiment renders the fact.

We should then be saying the Fact of evolution....and the word theory should be dropped altogether.

And I don't have a problem with evolution.
God did it.

The theory explains the fact - how is that so difficult for you to grasp? You must have had that simple point made to you 100 times, but are immune to learning.

 

[Bunyip]

Theories explain theories.

You seem to resort to gibberish when threatened with the prospect of learning simple truths. I can only assume because you fear the truth.

 

[Desert Snake]

You seem to resort to gibberish when threatened with the prospect of learning simple truths. I can only assume because you fear the truth.

Do you know what a 'theory' is? It isn't a fact(s). It's a theory.

 

[Bunyip]

Do you know what a 'theory' is? It isn't a fact(s). It's a theory.

Yes, I know what a theory is - theories explain facts. A scientific theory is the ultimate graduation point of a vast body of tested hypothesis, facts and data.

Your form of apologetics seems to have devolved to the point of just pretending not to understand simple concepts. Surely you can do better than that?

There is a wealth of brilliant thought over more than a thousand years by some of the greatest minds that ever lived in the edifice of apologetics - but you seem content with pretending not to understand what words mean. I have to admit to feeling great pity for you.

 

[Desert Snake]

Yes, I know what a theory is - theories explain facts. A scientific theory is the ultimate graduation point of a vast body of tested hypothesis, facts and data.

Your form of apologetics seems to have devolved to the point of just pretending not to understand simple concepts. Surely you can do better than that?

Theories don't explain facts. They can attempt to explain facts, but they remain in the 'theory' category unless they actually are facts.
You're getting things mixed up, I don't think you've thought through these arguments, but you won't learn this way.

 

[Bunyip]

Theories don't explain facts. They can attempt to explain facts, but they remain in the 'theory' category unless they actually are facts.
You're getting things mixed up, I don't think you've thought through these arguments, but you won't learn this way.

Why not just look up the definition of 'scientific theory'? Just pretending not to understand word meanings does not make for a very interesting exchange.

In science theory is above fact, theory explains the facts.

 

[Desert Snake]

Why not just look up the definition of 'scientific theory'? Just pretending not to understand word meanings does not make for a very interesting exchange.

In science theory is above fact, theory explains the facts.

.........

I'm going to let you argue with someone else, you're not understanding me.

 

[Bunyip]

.........

I'm going to let you argue with someone else, you're not understanding me.

Trying to explain a simple fact is not an argument. I suppose that pretending not to understand words has worked for Ray Comfort for 30 years, so good luck with that.

You can lead a creationist to a dictionary, but you can't make them read it.

 

[Desert Snake]

Trying to explain a simple fact is not an argument. I suppose that pretending not to understand words has worked for Ray Comfort for 30 years, so good luck with that.

You can lead a creationist to a dictionary, but you can't make them read it.

This is nonsense. You don't even know if I'm a creationist, you don't know what I believe. That isn't even relevant if you can't understand the simple concepts behind your arguments word-usage.