Proff Stories In The Bible Are Wrong

[outhouse]

I suspect she is going to go the Genesis 10:21–31 route....

She probably is.


Doesn't get around the facts the highlands of Israel only started to populate after 1200 BC.


But ive never seen education, knowledge, and reason get past a closed mind yet.

 

[roger1440]

Just be glad Jewish scripture wasn’t written around 1958. The authors might have had the ancient Jews go across the desert in Edsels.

 

[Pegg]

Yes

And I have a feeling you don't know anything at all about the language.

Semitic languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Semitic languages are a language family originating in the Near East whose living representatives are spoken by more than 470 million people across much of Western Asia, North Africa and the Horn of Africa. They constitute a branch of the Afroasiatic language family. The most widely spoken Semitic languages today are Arabic[1] (206 million native speakers),[2] Amharic (27 million),[3][4] Hebrew (9 million),[5][6][7] Tigrinya (6.7 million),[8] and Aramaic (about 2.2 million).[citation needed]

Semitic languages are attested in written form from a very early date, with Akkadian and Eblaite texts (written in a script adapted from Sumerian cuneiform) appearing from around the middle of the third millennium BC in Mesopotamia and the northern Levant respectively. However, most scripts used to write Semitic languages are abjads — a type of alphabetic script that omits some or all of the vowels, which is feasible for these languages because the consonants in the Semitic languages are the primary carriers of meaning. Among them are the Ugaritic, Phoenician, Aramaic, Hebrew, Syriac, Arabic, and South Arabian alphabets. The Ge'ez alphabet, used for writing the Semitic languages of Ethiopia and Eritrea, is technically an abugida — a modified abjad in which vowels are notated using diacritic marks added to the consonants. Maltese is the only Semitic language written in the Latin script and the only official Semitic language of the European Union.

The Semitic languages are well known for their nonconcatenative morphology. That is, word roots are not themselves syllables or words, but instead are isolated sets of consonants (usually three, making a so-called triliteral root). Words are composed out of roots not so much by adding prefixes or suffixes, but rather by filling in the vowels between the root consonants (although prefixes and suffixes are often added as well). For example, in Arabic, the root meaning "write" has the form k-t-b. From this root, words are formed by filling in the vowels, e.g. kitāb "book", kutub "books", kātib "writer", kuttāb "writers", kataba "he wrote", yaktubu "he writes", etc.

so if you agree that the semitic languages appear from around the middle of the third millennium BC, how is it you claim that the Isrealites didnt' exist until much much later?

They are semitic speaking people.... so they have obviously been around a lot longer then some of those nutty professors claim

btw, semitic means the language is an ancestor of Shem. His family line spread out speaking the same language... Abraham is 8th in line from Shem.

 

[nazz]

so if you agree that the semitic languages appear from around the middle of the third millennium BC, how is it you claim that the Isrealites didnt' exist until much much later?

They are semitic speaking people.... so they have obviously been around a lot longer then some of those nutty professors claim

btw, semitic means the language is an ancestor of Shem. His family line spread out speaking the same language... Abraham is 8th in line from Shem.

That the word "Semitic" comes from Shem (no argument there) does not mean Shem was a historical character. And the fact that Semitic languages existed at that time does not mean Israelites did at that same time.

 

[outhouse]

so if you agree that the semitic languages appear from around the middle of the third millennium BC, how is it you claim that the Isrealites didnt' exist until much much later?

They are semitic speaking people.... so they have obviously been around a lot longer then some of those nutty professors claim

btw, semitic means the language is an ancestor of Shem. His family line spread out speaking the same language... Abraham is 8th in line from Shem.

You embarrass yourself badly here pegg.



Do you think that only Israelites speak that language?


Do you think Semitic is Hebrew :slap:


Stop the nonsense

 

[shawn001]

when archeologists dig up things from the past, those things have been in the ground for a very long time, undisturbed.

The things written on ancient monuments, ie people, places,events have been corroborated in the historical accounts of the bible. If the bible is not historically accurate, why are these ancient discoveries mentioned in the bible?

Archaeology proves that the bible is indeed an accurate account of history.

"Archaeology proves that the bible is indeed an accurate account of history."

Not according to the biblical and biblical archeological Exerts.

NOVA | The Bible's Buried Secrets

So your saying also here Peg, wild camels came off the arK? When was that exactly? Do you have any archaeology links on camels coming off the ark?

 

[Pegg]

You embarrass yourself badly here pegg.



Do you think that only Israelites speak that language?


Do you think Semitic is Hebrew :slap:


Stop the nonsense

You were the one claiming that they didnt exist until 1200 BC which is incorrect.

The family line of Jacob/Israel began with Shem...the founder of the semitic languages. Jacob himself was born in 1858*BCE. Thats a lot earlier then your 1200 bce date.

 

[outhouse]

You were the one claiming that they didnt exist until 1200 BC which is incorrect.

The family line of Jacob/Israel began with Shem...the founder of the semitic languages. Jacob himself was born in 1858*BCE. Thats a lot earlier then your 1200 bce date.

Nonsense.

Back your statement with CREDIBLE sources that state he existed during this time period.

You cannot.

 

[Pegg]

Nonsense.

Back your statement with CREDIBLE sources that state he existed during this time period.

You cannot.

since when has any nation, or species, popped into existence without ancestors??

Do you think Jacob was the first of his kind? :areyoucra

 

[outhouse]

since when has any nation, or species, popped into existence without ancestors??

Do you think Jacob was the first of his kind? :areyoucra

Stop the nonsense, it is embarrassing.


Israelites ancestors were Canaanite for the most part and possibly a few other Semitic cultures, as many civilizations collapsed at this time.

Semitic has more languages then just Hebrew.


peg why doesn't Hebrew exist before 1000 BC??????????????????? :slap:

 

[Pegg]

Stop the nonsense, it is embarrassing.


Israelites ancestors were Canaanite for the most part and possibly a few other Semitic cultures, as many civilizations collapsed at this time.

Ah, no, Canaanites are from the sons of Canaan...hence why they are called 'canaanite'

The hebrews do not stem from Canaans family line...they stem from Shem.

peg why doesn't Hebrew exist before 1000 BC??????????????????? :slap:

Hebrew is the language of Shem, who was born in 2468*B.C.E

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

How does one found a language? Who was the founder of English?

 

[esmith]

How does one found a language? Who was the founder of English?

Language evolves. I seriously doubt one could converse with someone in the 8th or 9th century in England using modern English.
from: The wonderful story of The English Language

The history of our language, English can be traced back to the arrival of three powerful Germanic tribes to the collapsing Roman colony of Britannia during the mid 5th Century AD. Jutes, Angles and Saxons and crossed the North Sea from what is present-day Denmark and northern Germany. The primitive Romano Brython inhabitants at that time spoke in Brythonic or a Brythonic/ Latin patois. This language was quickly displaced along with the inhabitants who were pushed into Wales, Scotland and Cornwall where one group fled to the Brittany Coast of France - their descendants still live there as Bretons or Brythons to this day. The Angles were named from Engle, their land of origin. Their language, a West Germanic dialect was called Englisc from which the word English derives, their new country they named Engle land or Englalond. An Anglo-Saxon runic inscription dated between 450 and 480AD is the oldest known sample of the English language.

 

[metis]

Language evolves. I seriously doubt one could converse with someone in the 8th or 9th century in England using modern English.
from: The wonderful story of The English Language

I was listening to a guy speaking Cockney English in London and I could hardly understand what he was even talking about. He might as well been speaking Swahili.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Language evolves. I seriously doubt one could converse with someone in the 8th or 9th century in England using modern English.
from: The wonderful story of The English Language

It was just interesting because pegg said Shem was the founder of Hebrew...i don't get how one person just discovers a language I thought it was a group thing...

 

[Nakosis]

btw, semitic means the language is an ancestor of Shem. His family line spread out speaking the same language... Abraham is 8th in line from Shem.

That's what we call it, the word didn't exist before 1781. At the time people thought the Bible held some historical value. Now we know better. Some German fellow made up the word. And this is proof of something? Maybe Man's creative thinking.

We create words to describe concepts which may or may not have factual basis. Words are not really proof of anything except maybe how gullible man is. Funny we see something in print and people tend to accept it as fact when just as often people can't fully grasp the original concept contained by the words.

You champion a religious document while there's no reason to think you really grasp the thinking of it originators. I don't mean that in a nasty way. People make up stuff and and tell others they need to think a certain way to please God. I prefer the freedom to think for myself over being one of the flock.

 

[outhouse]

Ah, no, Canaanites are from the sons of Canaan...hence why they are called 'canaanite'

The hebrews do not stem from Canaans family line...they stem from Shem.




Hebrew is the language of Shem, who was born in 2468*B.C.E

Nonsense peg.

Start backing what you state with sources.


Because your dead wrong to the point of intellectual dishonesty, as I have provided credible sources, that state the opposite. :slap:

 

[Pegg]

Nonsense peg.

Start backing what you state with sources.


Because your dead wrong to the point of intellectual dishonesty, as I have provided credible sources, that state the opposite. :slap:

they are credible sources in your view, but not in mine.


:no:

 

[Man of Faith]

they are credible sources in your view, but not in mine.


:no:

I think you aren't understanding the naturalist narrative. Let me try to help you out. Any person or scientist that holds a pre-adherence to naturalistic causes of all past events are credible, any others are non-credible.

 

[roger1440]

I was listening to a guy speaking Cockney English in London and I could hardly understand what he was even talking about. He might as well been speaking Swahili.

Listen to this. If you were not told, you wouldn't know it was English.

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The Lords Prayer in Old English from the 11th century - YouTube