Likewise, those who think it's okay to build structures taller than a single story aren't really against deaths by jumping.
Only the people who think railings are an unjust restriction on freedom.
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And people wonder why they're called "Gun Nuts"
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Only the people who think railings are an unjust restriction on freedom.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Since we're toying with analogies, the "railing" in the case of guns would be the preexisting restrictions, but by your logic railings aren't enough and only single story buildings will do.
CMike
Well-Known Member
Those who are for the right to have a blade more than 3 inches aren't really against homocidal stabbings.Likewise, those who think it's okay to build structures taller than a single story aren't really against deaths by jumping.
CMike
Well-Known Member
Most guns have trigger guards and safeties.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Those who are for the right to have a blade more than 3 inches aren't really against homocidal stabbings.
People need a government official to cut their meals into bite size pieces for them in order to ensure that they don't cut themselves or choke to death.
... which help prevent suicide how, exactly?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
What do knives have that help prevent wrist slitting?
Suicide attempts involving knives have only a fraction of the lethality of attempts using firearms:
Harvard School of Public Health » Means Matter » Lethality of Suicide Method
A lot of the difference comes down to time: if someone slits their wrists but instantly regrets it, they can apply pressure and (usually) control the bleeding enough that they won't bleed out before they get care. Someone who shoots himself in the head doesn't have this luxury.
Of course only left wing groups should be allowed to rally.
Hey Mike, are you trying to pass that strawman off as an intelligent comment? Just curious.
methylatedghosts
Can't brain. Has dumb.
Try again:
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uplo...ions/ch3-an-index-of-freedom-in-the-world.pdf
You'll notice, on page 9 with the table, the country I live in tops the list in terms of overall freedom, and while individual freedom is less than some other countries at a 9.2, the u.s. Ranks 7th overall, with a score on individual freedom of 8.7.
Now, be nice....his comment matches your style of sarcasm.
Now, try to be reasonable. His comment matches a strawman fallacy.
CMike's country engages in warrantless wiretapping, allows serious breaches of habeas corpus, has frequent election irregularities, and won't even let him have Kinder Surprise eggs, but he's got his guns, so he thinks he's free.
InformedIgnorance
Do you 'know' or believe?
You are only saying that because you havent seen just how common those giant #1 foam hands (manufactured overseas) are; clearly if you have enough giant foam hands that demonstrates the reality of the message therein.
(side note) Damn we lost to NZ? Heck even the US has more economic freedom than Aus? though we do beat them on personal freedom of course :/
Oh and I'm not sure that CMike would agree with the rating mechanism given that in those countries that have fallen into chaos armed mobs rule and they have guns, clearly those armed mobs have significantly more freedom compared to those they victimise who have less weapons yet the paper makes no attempt to represent that clearly those people with guns in the Sudan have more freedom than those without. Second amendment in action! That just proves how spar spangled awesome it is!!!
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Apex
Somewhere Around Nothing
No True Scotman-ish fallacy aside, a bolt action rifle or pump shotgun are all you need to commit suicide. And I believe those are legal even in your country.
CMike
Well-Known Member
Oh wow if they say so it must be true.
:no:
CMike
Well-Known Member
Yeah...arab terrorists are having their freedom more and more curtailed.
It must really suck for them.
CMike
Well-Known Member
It doesn't.
People have a personal responsibility to not kill themselves.
We don't take away people's rights to bear arms because some people may use them to committ suicide.
