javajo
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Hi, what I believe is we were saved when we trusted Christ, and we were justified before God, but we were sanctified (set apart, being made holy), yet are being sanctified and will be ultimately sanctified when we are transformed at the Rapture/Resurrection. So, we are children of God and also becoming children of God, we are growing in grace and one day it will be complete when we are finally made immortal and sinless when we are changed.24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5...
Hi Javajo,
Why would those who receive Him AND believed in His name be given the right/authority/power to BECOME...? Those words were not put there for no reason. They mean what they said. It does not allow for receiving Him 'as savior', because people who are already children of God don't need to be given the right to become children of God.
(Note the red words in the above, blue-letter verse, we HAVE, present tense, everlasting life and we ARE, right now, passed from death to life. and we SHALL NOT COME, ever, into condemnation. Just as the following verses show):
For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: Eph. 5:8
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Col. 1
For yeare all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Gal. 3:26
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. Romans 8:16
Note, we ARE, NOW the children of God.
And not only so, we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Rom. 5:11
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened (made alive) together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Col.2:13
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved) Eph. 2:5
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Eph. 2:1
Notice this is PAST tense. He HAS made us alive, he HAS forgiven us ALL sins, we WERE dead, but are NOW alive. This is very plain in scripture.
It does: Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. Acts 2:41Acts at Pentecost doesn't say anything to the effect that the 3000 were saved when they believed.