Difficult verses of the Qur'an that you don't understand?

[Gharib]

Hello everyone.

Do you find some verses of the Qur'an difficult to understand? If so, you can post here what verses you find difficult to understand and I will do my best to try and explain them from the Islamic point of view.

I will use the commentary of Ibn Kathir as well as other trusted Islamic sources to try and explain any such verses as clearly as possible.

Thanks for your time in reading this.

 

[Madhuri]

This thread is a good idea Eselam. I actually find most verses to be difficult, if not impossible, to understand. It is probably the English translations but I find the wording/grammar so terrible that the sentence makes no sense to me at all.

So when I come across a particular verse that I wish to understand, I will post it here.

 

[nameless]

“If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter, he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (their selves in the Hellfire).” (Quran 3:85)

kindly explain, eselam ....

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Sura 9:5 ...

 

[robo]

Surat An-Nisa 4:56

Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.

 

[arcanum]

Surat An-Nisa 4:56

lol wow that some serious stuff right there

 

[arcanum]

Hello everyone.

Do you find some verses of the Qur'an difficult to understand? If so, you can post here what verses you find difficult to understand and I will do my best to try and explain them from the Islamic point of view.

I will use the commentary of Ibn Kathir as well as other trusted Islamic sources to try and explain any such verses as clearly as possible.

Thanks for your time in reading this.

I think your going to have your hands full for a while :yes:

 

[Gharib]

kindly explain, eselam ....

The commentary of Ibn Kathir of Chapter 3, verse 85 [3:85]:

"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers."

Allah said next,

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him....,

whoever seeks other than what Allah has legislated, it will not be accepted from him.

....and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.

As the Prophet said in an authentic Hadith, Whoever commits an action that does not conform to our matter (religion) then it is rejected

According to Islamic teachings, any deed done for the sake and pleasure of someone other than Allah will have it rejected by Allah on the Day of Judgement. Moreover, the same applies to one who does a deed for the sake and pleasure of Allah and associates along side Allah someone else.

Hadith Qudsi*:
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:

"Allah (glorified and exalted be He) said: ‘I am so self-sufficient that I am in no need of having an associate. Thus he who does an action for someone else's sake as well as Mine will have that action renounced by Me to him whom he associated with Me."

It was related by Muslim (also by Ibn Majah).

*Meaning of Hadith Qudsi:
Among the many definitions given by the early scholars to Sacred Hadith is that of as-Sayyid ash-Sharif al-Jurjani (died in 816 A.H.) in his lexicon At-Tarifat where he says: "A Sacred Hadith is, as to the meaning, from Allah the Almighty; as to the wording, it is from the messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)." It is that which Allah the Almighty has communicated to His Prophet through revelation or in dream, and he, peace be upon him, has communicated it in his own words.

In the verse it says that any religion other than Islam will not be accepted as a means of attaining Paradise because to live a life contrary to the commands of Allah means to disobey him and therefore one has no deeds which Allah will accept of him.

 

[nameless]

In the verse it says that any religion other than Islam will not be accepted as a means of attaining Paradise because to live a life contrary to the commands of Allah means to disobey him and therefore one has no deeds which Allah will accept of him.

thanks,

he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (their selves in the Hellfire).” (Quran 3:85)

you did not say anything about hell fire punishment, does allah punish us for faith in other religions?

 

[Godobeyer]

Surat An-Nisa 4:56

replace the old skin by new one ,it's continous and retaste "the punishement ", to become infinity punishement .

 

[Pastek]

Salam eselam !

I don't have a tafsir, so i wanted to know if you can explain these verse from sourate Joseph:

13.35
I don't understand why if Joseph was found non guilty he was send to jail ?

Also

13.75
The brothers talked about a "law". Which law ?
Is it Abraham's Law ?
Because it's clearly a one different from the King's law, as God said in the verse 13.76

And i didn't understood at all the verse 13.77

BarakAllahou fik !

 

[Godobeyer]

Hello everyone.

Do you find some verses of the Qur'an difficult to understand? If so, you can post here what verses you find difficult to understand and I will do my best to try and explain them from the Islamic point of view.

I will use the commentary of Ibn Kathir as well as other trusted Islamic sources to try and explain any such verses as clearly as possible.

Thanks for your time in reading this.

that good idea brother ,

 

[Gharib]

Sura 9:5 ...

The commentary of verse 5 & 6 of chapter 9 are given in the link below:

And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.

Commentary of verse 5 & 6 of chapter 9

It is too long to post it here.

 

[Gharib]

thanks,
you did not say anything about hell fire punishment, does allah punish us for faith in other religions?

My previous post answers this last question, but just in case I didn't sate it clear I will explain it again.

In Islamic teachings, to live life according to the teachings of another religion other than Islam and to do the things which another religion teaches means to disobey God, which is related to the 2 Hadith that i quoted before:

Hadith Qudsi:
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:

"Allah (glorified and exalted be He) said: ‘I am so self-sufficient that I am in no need of having an associate. Thus he who does an action for someone else's sake as well as Mine will have that action renounced by Me to him whom he associated with Me."

It was related by Muslim (also by Ibn Majah).

As the Prophet said in an authentic Hadith, Whoever commits an action that does not conform to our matter (religion) then it is rejected

 

[YmirGF]

74. Then they proceeded: until, when they met a young man, he slew him. Moses said: "Hast thou slain an innocent person who had slain none? Truly a foul (unheard-of) thing hast thou done!"

75. He answered: "Did I not tell thee that thou canst have no patience with me?"

76. (Moses) said: "If ever I ask thee about anything after this, keep me not in thy company: then wouldst thou have received (full) excuse from my side."

which is explained a few verses later with...

80. "As for the youth, his parents were people of Faith, and we feared that he would grieve them by obstinate rebellion and ingratitude (to Allah and man).

81. "So we desired that their Lord would give them in exchange (a son) better in purity (of conduct) and closer in affection.

On the face of it, this verse seems to voice a proactive killing of a child, by a holy man of god, so that the parents might produce another child who would be more righteous. This could easily be interpreted as being the source of the reason for what is described as "honor killings". Various tasfir's explain that because of the holy man's great wisdom (given from god) he was able to see that the child (young man) was going to be the cause of his parents doom... or something like that.

At best, this verse would seem to indicate that it is perfectly OK for someone with enough knowledge (from god) to trot about the countryside killing whoever they pleased. At worst, this is the thinking of a psychopathic writer.

 

[robo]

eselam:

I thought in starting this thread you would reinterpret the hateful verses of your "holy" book. But you are simply reiterating the same hateful message of the Quran towards Kuffars.

We already knew all this - Allah hates infidels, you need to kill polytheists, Allah will burn our skin, regrow the skin and then reburn our skin just for fun and giggles, etc. etc.

What are YOU bringing to the table that is NEW?

Are you going to make any attempt in this thread to reinterpret the violent verses in your "holy" book and make it compatible with a diverse 21st century cultural milieu or am I wasting my time in this thread?

 

[Pastek]

We are not here to change the words or the meaning just to please you, robo
Here it is what it is. Hell exist in Islam belief, that's all. You are free to believe it or not.

He tries to help to understand some verses. Not to change them.

 

[arthra]

Robo asked about Surih 4:56

I'm not refering to any particular commentary but I always like to consider the context of verses to reflect on the meanings.

Here's the context:

Surih 4:56 context

Or do they envy people for what Allah has given them of His bounty? But we had already given the family of Abraham the Scripture and wisdom and conferred upon them a great kingdom.

And some among them believed in it, and some among them were averse to it. And sufficient is Hell as a blaze.</SPAN>

Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.</SPAN>

But those who believe and do righteous deeds - We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide forever. For them therein are purified spouses, and We will admit them to deepening shade.

...............................................

Interestingly this begins with the reference to the bounty given to the family of Abraham.. both Qur'an and Bible reference this.. The Covenant God made with Abraham. It's a historical reference to what happened in the past. Some envied it and some rejected it ... the scripture and wisdom God gave to Abraham.

Hell is the same word that is in the Bible or "bijahannama" and Gehennam.

Those who reject the revelation from God will be alienated from God... It's their choice.. to reject it or not. It's basically the same idea of hell you find in Buddhism and Hinduism. Do we know how long it is... I'm not sure about that. It doesn't say that in this verse.. Some speculated that the skins being replaced suggested reincarnation but I don't think it means that.

Along with that there is an implication that the rejectors will do evil deeds.. because in the next verse it says:

"But those who believe and do righteous deeds - We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide forever. For them therein are purified spouses, and We will admit them to deepening shade."

This is the positive side!

 

[Me Myself]

My previous post answers this last question, but just in case I didn't sate it clear I will explain it again.

In Islamic teachings, to live life according to the teachings of another religion other than Islam and to do the things which another religion teaches means to disobey God, which is related to the 2 Hadith that i quoted before:

Hadith Qudsi:
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:

"Allah (glorified and exalted be He) said: ‘I am so self-sufficient that I am in no need of having an associate. Thus he who does an action for someone else's sake as well as Mine will have that action renounced by Me to him whom he associated with Me."

It was related by Muslim (also by Ibn Majah).

As the Prophet said in an authentic Hadith, Whoever commits an action that does not conform to our matter (religion) then it is rejected

Unfortunately, that doesn´t sound coherent to the text.

Yes, it may be a very good morality for that time.

But for today?

Where does it says that they should attack only the polytheists that are attacking them?(hence in self defense)

What th text actually reads, is that if they repent on worshipping numerous gods, they should be allowed to live. If they don´t (even if the "repented" and ceased on attacking) they should be fully assasinated.

Or where does it says that if the polytheists stop attacking you should not kill them? It reads as a fully religious intolerant text.

 

[Gharib]

Surat An-Nisa 4:56

Robo asked about Surih 4:56

I'm not refering to any particular commentary but I always like to consider the context of verses to reflect on the meanings.

Here's the context:

Surih 4:56 context

Or do they envy people for what Allah has given them of His bounty? But we had already given the family of Abraham the Scripture and wisdom and conferred upon them a great kingdom.

And some among them believed in it, and some among them were averse to it. And sufficient is Hell as a blaze.</SPAN>

Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.</SPAN>

But those who believe and do righteous deeds - We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide forever. For them therein are purified spouses, and We will admit them to deepening shade.

...............................................

Interestingly this begins with the reference to the bounty given to the family of Abraham.. both Qur'an and Bible reference this.. The Covenant God made with Abraham. It's a historical reference to what happened in the past. Some envied it and some rejected it ... the scripture and wisdom God gave to Abraham.

Hell is the same word that is in the Bible or "bijahannama" and Gehennam.

Those who reject the revelation from God will be alienated from God... It's their choice.. to reject it or not. It's basically the same idea of hell you find in Buddhism and Hinduism. Do we know how long it is... I'm not sure about that. It doesn't say that in this verse.. Some speculated that the skins being replaced suggested reincarnation but I don't think it means that.

Along with that there is an implication that the rejectors will do evil deeds.. because in the next verse it says:

"But those who believe and do righteous deeds - We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide forever. For them therein are purified spouses, and We will admit them to deepening shade."

This is the positive side!

The commentary of Ibn Kathir of verse 56 of chapter 4:
Allah describes the torment in the Fire of Jahannam for those who disbelieve in His Ayat and hinder from the path of His Messengers.
Allah said,
Surely, those who disbelieved in Our Ayat, We shall burn them in Fire
meaning, We will place them in the Fire which will encompass every part of their bodies.

Allah then states that their punishment and torment are everlasting,
As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for other skins that they may taste the punishment.

Al-Amash said that Ibn Umar said, "When their skin are burned, they will be given another skin in replacement, and this skin will be as white as paper.''

This was collected by Ibn Abi Hatim, who also recorded that Al-Hasan said, (As often as their skins are roasted through), "Their skin will be roasted through, seventy thousand times every day.''

Husayn said; Fudayl added that Hisham said that AlHasan also said that, (As often as their skins are roasted through), means, "Whenever the Fire has roasted them through and consumed their flesh, they will be told, `Go back as you were before,' and they will.''

In Islam the hear after is eternal, Paradise is everlasting as well as Hell. For every crime/sin there is a different punishment and since such punishments are long lasting, where ever on the body the inhabitants of Hell face a punishment, that part will grow back to normal so the punishment can continue.

this is similar to the following Hadith from Sahih Bukhari (Book #23, Hadith #468):

Narrated Samura bin Jundab: Whenever the Prophet finished the (morning) prayer, he would face us and ask, "Who amongst you had a dream last night?" So if anyone had seen a dream he would narrate it. The Prophet would say: "Ma sha'a-llah" (An Arabic maxim meaning literally, 'What Allah wished,' and it indicates a good omen.) One day, he asked us whether anyone of us had seen a dream. We replied in the negative. The Prophet said, "But I had seen (a dream) last night that two men came to me, caught hold of my hands, and took me to the Sacred Land (Jerusalem). There, I saw a person sitting and another standing with an iron hook in his hand pushing it inside the mouth of the former till it reached the jaw-bone, and then tore off one side of his cheek, and then did the same with the other side; in the mean-time the first side of his cheek became normal again and then he repeated the same operation again. I said, 'What is this?' They told me to proceed on and we went on till we came to a man Lying flat on his back, and another man standing at his head carrying a stone or a piece of rock, and crushing the head of the Lying man, with that stone. Whenever he struck him, the stone rolled away. The man went to pick it up and by the time he returned to him, the crushed head had returned to its normal state and the man came back and struck him again (and so on). (the hadith continues)