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There can be no light without the dark.....right?
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Proper-Gander
Member
No.
There is plenty of darkness hiding within the "light". There is no need for labels or defined sides. Too many people feel that they need an enemy to hate and fight against in order for their life to have meaning and purpose. I find this to be a very empty existence. If you can not stand on your own, then you are not actually standing.
From a non-religious standpoint...maybe there is darkness. As humans, I think we would call the darkness things like: ignorance, prejudice, hatred.
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Oneatatime
Huh?
I wasn't aware that the two were required to balance or that such subjective notions could be considered as clear opposites for such an exercise to be attempted.
blackout
Violet.
Darkness is simply the absence of electromagnetic radiation/photons,
or ... the lack of eyes/'I's" , to observe it/them.
Putting aside the issue of "eyes",
it would seem that Darkness is the Default.
No photons? No light.
Default, darkness.
There certainly is far more Darkness in our Universe,
than Visible light.
At least as far as I can see.
For me,
apparent darkness = mystery.
Things like "BlackLights" reveal
things that we could not otherwise see,
"in the light".
I mySelf certainly prefer "mystery religions".
I can respond to your query in the positive!
There is the physical darkness which is good because it means there is a cycle to life in the physical. Biggest meaning in my opinion is the contrast of things, the divisions if you will.
It is in the divisions of things is where things multiply. Where one is divided, another is created, such is life.
Now, that was the physical necessity for darkness in a sort.
There is however, a larger definition of darkness and that has to do with knowledge.
If there is no knowledge of anything there is absolute darkness.
Life begins in the dark, as no baby about to be born has no knowledge what so ever except the need to feed.
So, we can say then that out of darkness knowledge is born given that there is light to shine upon it.
Now like darkness, light is knowledge available and reachable.
In the case of the story of Adam and Eve, they were both in the dark as far as knowledge was concerned because of the very fact that there is a mention of a tree of knowledge available to them in the physical, meaning that they were alive in the physical but without the spirit of discernment, meaning having the ability to make judgments between what is good and evil.
Good and evil is defined by some by many in many different ways. But for this explanation I will define evil as our ability to determine the difference between when we know we do good and the when we know we do evil.
That determination ability is termed the conscience.
Every person has a conscience to varying degrees. The degree depends on the individuals desires based on the ability to want, as gods, the things that can harm us verses the things that can help us.
A desire to steal for example is one where the individual is exercising the right as a god to choose between what is good and what is evil.
Darkness = lack of knowledge =lack of spiritual knowledge of which light of God has come into the world as a lamp unto our feet and to draw us out of the darkness into the light of God's existence. To give us individual worth and salvation after this life is over with.
The good news is, that regardless of what age of human history we are born in, whether we acquired such knowledge or not, we are all covered.
That is the beauty of the love of God.
Blessings, AJ
There is the physical darkness which is good because it means there is a cycle to life in the physical. Biggest meaning in my opinion is the contrast of things, the divisions if you will.
It is in the divisions of things is where things multiply. Where one is divided, another is created, such is life.
Now, that was the physical necessity for darkness in a sort.
There is however, a larger definition of darkness and that has to do with knowledge.
If there is no knowledge of anything there is absolute darkness.
Life begins in the dark, as no baby about to be born has no knowledge what so ever except the need to feed.
So, we can say then that out of darkness knowledge is born given that there is light to shine upon it.
Now like darkness, light is knowledge available and reachable.
In the case of the story of Adam and Eve, they were both in the dark as far as knowledge was concerned because of the very fact that there is a mention of a tree of knowledge available to them in the physical, meaning that they were alive in the physical but without the spirit of discernment, meaning having the ability to make judgments between what is good and evil.
Good and evil is defined by some by many in many different ways. But for this explanation I will define evil as our ability to determine the difference between when we know we do good and the when we know we do evil.
That determination ability is termed the conscience.
Every person has a conscience to varying degrees. The degree depends on the individuals desires based on the ability to want, as gods, the things that can harm us verses the things that can help us.
A desire to steal for example is one where the individual is exercising the right as a god to choose between what is good and what is evil.
Darkness = lack of knowledge =lack of spiritual knowledge of which light of God has come into the world as a lamp unto our feet and to draw us out of the darkness into the light of God's existence. To give us individual worth and salvation after this life is over with.
The good news is, that regardless of what age of human history we are born in, whether we acquired such knowledge or not, we are all covered.
That is the beauty of the love of God.
Blessings, AJ
Thief
Rogue Theologian
You ran over several distinct items, and lumped them altogether.
The op question...could there be a bad religion....
as a balance for something else.
There is bad religion.
You see it all around you.
It is filled with recital and dogma.
It is filled with ritual and sacrifice.
All of us are covered?....I think not.
Few find the way....'there'.
Is not the potential for good or bad, light or dark, weak or strong in perfect balance the most powerful energy?
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Most religions have their own balance, so I don't really see the point.
You are correct in that there are bad religions out there especially the ones who promote harm to others who and not the "love one another command).
And light and darkness have allot to do with it because the true light of God, which is His true nature, is neglected, not wanting it or simply ignorant (In darkness of it) of it.
That is why I made the distinction between both the light and the darkness.
The key to understanding all of this has to do with our being as gods.
Animals are not as gods for they do not have a level of intelligences as we do there by not having the ability to distinguish between what is good or evil.
Now as for religion, well, mankind having the power to lord over its own kind will use the means to accomplish its a own agenda.
The truth of God is that He is, and lover of all His creation as noted by His Son Jesus Christ who is the new creation of heavenly souls born here on earth to a life everlasting.
We are here for the birth of our individuality, the experience of managing our ability as gods and to hopefully learn to manage the good and evil via religion or in some cases, non religion.
If no hurt or harm is practiced and love for one another as the motive, then that is the truest of religion.
Blessings, AJ
Thief
Rogue Theologian
And this post of yours covers the idea that Christian faith is also faulted?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
If it was kept to those two commands...yes.
Love God.
Do unto others as you would have it done unto you.
But then there's all that dogma and ritual.....
And that's where all the individual sects come from.
There's is only one Almighty and two laws to follow.
Nothing else.
waitasec
Veteran Member
what if you don't love yourself?
waitasec
Veteran Member
not being able to love one self isn't something one does...
it is something they are...
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Nope.
It's suppose to be DO unto others as you would have DONE unto you.
Your last sentence then follows, neatly so.
waitasec
Veteran Member
leviticus 19:18
18 Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.
Viker
Häxan
Light could be viewed as an intrusion into the dark. Light can be used as a trick. What makes you think the "bearers of light" can not be evil? It's really a matter of perspective. They may make immediately useful symbols. They're really both very neutral.