Religion/Philosophy and Science - like Oil and Water

[nnmartin]

Religion/Philosophy and Science just do not mix.

No point trying to 'prove' something that is basically a philosophical or religious concept.

I can't really even see the point as science will only ever go so far - the more you know as fact the more you want to know - like money , you can never have enough!

Science breeds want - it's a good thing to study but not to bring into a philosophical debate.

water and oil do not mix so why try and make them?

 

[Skwim]

Religion/Philosophy and Science just do not mix.

No point trying to 'prove' something that is basically a philosophical or religious concept.

I can't really even see the point as science will only ever go so far - the more you know as fact the more you want to know - like money , you can never have enough!

Science breeds want - it's a good thing to study but not to bring into a philosophical debate.

water and oil do not mix so why try and make them?

Because some of the faithful see the explanatory power of science as a danger to some of their beliefs, and try to employ that power to put these beliefs on an equal footing so as to meet and beat the explanations of science. Creation science being the prime example.

 

[Me Myself]

Religion/Philosophy and Science just do not mix.

No point trying to 'prove' something that is basically a philosophical or religious concept.

I can't really even see the point as science will only ever go so far - the more you know as fact the more you want to know - like money , you can never have enough!

Science breeds want - it's a good thing to study but not to bring into a philosophical debate.

water and oil do not mix so why try and make them?

I agree. They can be together, but they don´t mix.

 

[nnmartin]

Religion and philosophy make you relaxed and contented but science just makes you frustrated.

A combination of both seems to be even more frustrating!

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Religion and philosophy make you relaxed and contented but science just makes you more frustrated.

I can see why religion took over the world in the past.

...what history book are you reading?

I would hardly call the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the conversion wars relaxing...

 

[heretic]

religion/philosophy and science should be together , if religion from God and science from God then they should be homogeneous. people who misunderstand religion, set their own laws , then discarded science when it threatened their wrong believes

 

[A. T. Henderson]

water and oil do not mix so why try and make them?

Oil and water do mix after all - 19 February 2003 - New Scientist

Science: the metaphor ruiner.

 

[not nom]

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mystical. It is the source of all true art and science."

-- Albert Einstein

 

[not nom]

Religion and philosophy make you relaxed and contented but science just makes you frustrated.

A combination of both seems to be even more frustrating!

speak for yourself... also, if by "religion and philosophy" (all religions? all ways to practice religions? all philosophies? really? heh!) you mean just dreaming up stuff without it ever having stand up to any test of validity, then yeah, that is comforting. so is heroin. what's your point?

 

[Father Heathen]

How does philosophy conflict with science? Neither deal with the same thing.

 

[not nom]

take racism for example. utterly scientific. yet there are plenty of philosophies and even religions which have a place for it. science doesn't. I like that, score one for science.

without science, we'd still be thinking diseases are transmitted by foul smells and whatnot... so if you think questions you can't answer, or others dealing with issues you can't understand, is frustrating, I disagree. I like questions. but dying of the plague, now THAT I imagine to be frustrating.

 

[A. T. Henderson]

How does philosophy conflict with science? Neither deal with the same thing.

Cosmology deals with a great many issues addressed by philosophy, doesn't it?

 

[not nom]

How does philosophy conflict with science? Neither deal with the same thing.

neither deals with just one "thing" though. or at least wikipedia would have me believe that.

"Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language."

how is there no overlap with science? science is a method, not a field. but that method is very well applicable to a lot of things philosophy can be about. philosophy is based on personal observation and makes general claims, science (ideally) deals with the reproducable and factual. that makes philosophers pout sometimes, and that's the conflict. good science and good philosophy are not in conflict... but where either or both are crappy and agenda-driven, there's squabbling.

 

[not nom]

dying of the plague

turn to religion for help and you get "it happens CUZ YOU SUCK. and you avert it by doing less science and more self-hypnosis." turn to philosophy and you get something similar. now I'm all comforted and not frustrated while I die miserably and cold. yay!

 

[rusra02]

Religion/Philosophy and Science just do not mix.

No point trying to 'prove' something that is basically a philosophical or religious concept.

I can't really even see the point as science will only ever go so far - the more you know as fact the more you want to know - like money , you can never have enough!

Science breeds want - it's a good thing to study but not to bring into a philosophical debate.

water and oil do not mix so why try and make them?

The true religion and science mix just fine. Romans 1:20 says of God; "For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world's creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship." God is the greatest Scientist, and used his knowledge and wisdom to create the physical universe and the life upon it. (Jeremiah 10:12) Science is nothing more than man studying God's handiwork.

 

[SageTree]

They might not 'mix' in a soluble sort of way.... but I don't think that makes them fundamentally opposed to each other, meaning I don't think they can't go into the same glass or drink.

 

[heretic]

The true religion and science mix just fine. Romans 1:20 says of God; "For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world's creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship." God is the greatest Scientist, and used his knowledge and wisdom to create the physical universe and the life upon it. (Jeremiah 10:12) Science is nothing more than man studying God's handiwork.

:yes:

 

[idav]

Religion/Philosophy and Science just do not mix.

No point trying to 'prove' something that is basically a philosophical or religious concept.

I can't really even see the point as science will only ever go so far - the more you know as fact the more you want to know - like money , you can never have enough!

Science breeds want - it's a good thing to study but not to bring into a philosophical debate.

water and oil do not mix so why try and make them?

Scientist is the new priesthood/medicine-man. Much more effective since prayer isn't always enough to get well. Not sure sacrificing ever really worked either.

 

[Meow Mix]

Science is philosophy. It's a subset of metaphysics in that it is a rigorous method founded in specific domains of epistemology and ontology: it persues tentative empirical knowledge to the best of what our instruments can give us from the best of what empirical evidence is available.

There is no distinction between science and philosophy, not really.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Science is philosophy. It's a subset of metaphysics in that it is a rigorous method founded in specific domains of epistemology and ontology: it persues tentative empirical knowledge to the best of what our instruments can give us from the best of what empirical evidence is available.

There is no distinction between science and philosophy, not really.

It would be correctly called Natural Philosophy