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Is it okay to kill this?

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
An embryo isn't an infant. A glob of cells that lacks sapience doesn't have personhood. It's no more "murder" than when you wash your hands with antibacterial soap.

An embryo is human life at an early stage of development, heathen. Eventually, embryos become people like you and me. How can something that doesn't have personhood become a person?
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
An embryo is human life at an early stage of development, heathen. Eventually, embryos become people like you and me. How can something that doesn't have personhood become a person?

What kills me is these are the same people that are angry at God for allowing suffering, when they support abortion doctors that do the same.
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
What kills me is these are the same people that are angry at God for allowing suffering, when they support abortion doctors that do the same.

For what it's worth, I do not support abortion doctors when they scramble the brains of unborn children or dissolve them with saline solution.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
An embryo is human life at an early stage of development, heathen. Eventually, embryos become people like you and me. How can something that doesn't have personhood become a person?

DNA and stem cells. An embryo and an infant are two different things altogether. The appropriate word would be embryocide.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
What kills me is these are the same people that are angry at God for allowing suffering, when they support abortion doctors that do the same.

Looking at even a portion of this thread, we have already discovered that there is no mechanism in the brain for a fetus do even feel, let alone comprehend suffering, until about 28 weeks. Anything before would be a sufferingless incident, so it might be your preconceived notions that are killing you.
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
For what it's worth, I do not support abortion doctors when they scramble the brains of unborn children or dissolve them with saline solution.

I am in agreement with you. But I don't see how people can condemn god for permitting suffering, when those that support abortion do the same. I know of instances where they were attempting a late term abortion, but the baby was accidentally delivered alive. They still performed the abortion anyway outside of the womb. I wonder if God is cruel for allowing such things.
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
Looking at even a portion of this thread, we have already discovered that there is no mechanism in the brain for a fetus do even feel, let alone comprehend suffering, until about 28 weeks. Anything before would be a sufferingless incident, so it might be your preconceived notions that are killing you.

What about the ones where the baby is delivered alive and killed anyway. Do you think those babies feel?
 

Nerthus

Wanderlust
I feel there is definitely a limit for when abortion should be allowed, and by those pictures - that is definitely too late. Having an abortion would be much harder than having one at only a few weeks.
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
... and then there is the partial birth abortion. If you have had one of these or have performed one of these as a "doctor", you probably don't have a soul.
 

Nerthus

Wanderlust
Here are some testimonies of botched abortions. These abortions resulted in much suffering. I wonder how many abortion supporters condemn God for permitting suffering, but condone these horrible acts.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...sg=AFQjCNHo8gnGBXQwOVSfi8qjba_BGzaKmQ&cad=rja

They are horrible, no one could deny that, but there is a different to believing that woman have the right to choose abortion at an early stage. Not everyone who believes this, will condone or support partial birth abortions etc.
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
They are horrible, no one could deny that, but there is a different to believing that woman have the right to choose abortion at an early stage. Not everyone who believes this, will condone or support partial birth abortions etc.

Compromise is the devils greatest weapon
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Interesting how this "partial birth" abortion keeps coming up when it is illegal in the USA.

One wonders why so many anti-choice people dwell upon this appeal to emotion...
Is it because they got nothing else?
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Compromise is the devils greatest weapon
Wait...
I though that people believing he does not exist was his greatest weapon...
I sure wish you theists would come to come collaboration on what exactly is his greatest weapon.
 

end of time

Reality check
I personally know woman that have had abortions, one in particular has had several. These women are now tortured souls. Very depressed, Bad things happening in there life
 
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