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Lord Hanuman is a deity in Hinduism born during treta yuga and present in Ramayan. He was a Bhakt of Lord Rama and helped Lord in his mission to kill demons. He was born in vaanar species. Species of Vaanar can be closed linked to Homo erectus.
This is what everyone know or should know about Hanuman's origin:
Lord Hanuman was born from Mata Aanjana. She was a Apasara (celestial dancer) in her previous birth named Punjisthala. She and Pavan Dev (God of wind) were in love. But due to certain circumstances, she was cursed to be born into a VAANAR yoni.
The only way to get relief from that curse, Aanjana mata had to pray to Lord Shiva. Lord Shiva gave her boon that in her next life she will give birth to his 11th rudra avatar (Shiva's ansh Avatar) and will get relieved from the curse. At the same time King Kesari was cursed as well to be born into a Vaanar yoni and became husband of Aanjana.
Now you make ask what about Pavan Dev and their love. Well, Lord Shiva suggested to Pavan dev to forget about Punjisthala as their love caused them to be cursed and brought misfortune. So, Pavan dev purified himself by doing tapasya of lord shiva. Aajana Mata had already forgotten about her past life and about Pavan Dev.
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Hanuman is called Pavan Sut, Anjaneya, Kesari nandan, Maruti, Shankar Suvan etc.
There are various puranic stories regarding Hanuman's birth. One can still link them together without much difference though. I will give through them now.
In Ramayan, it was Pavan Dev who impregnated Anjana by planting into her womb a son who would be as swift as him and unique in valor, wisdom and might (this was done without injuring her chastity, simply by embracing her) and thus she gave birth to Hanuman.
So, in Ramayan there is no mentioning of Lord Shiva or anything about Mohini.
Later in Puranas we get to know that Pavan Dev actually transferred the virya (semen/seed) of Shiva in her womb.
Something that does not make sense to me is this story from Shiva Purana that talks about the Shiva's virya.
"One day Siva saw the Mohini form of Vishnu. He was struck by Kama's
arrows and let fall his seed. The Seven Sages put the seed in a pot
and they infused it into the daughter of Gautama through her ear. In
time, Hanuman, the monkey-god, was born from it." -- Siva Purana
There are other Puranic stories relating to Lord Shiva and Mohini's union resulting in falling of Shiva's virya on ground and being carried by Pavan Deva.
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My question/views:
The story of Lord Shiva's union with Mohini and origination of Hanuman seems demeaning to both Lord Vishnu and Shiva as well.
How could someone who is Shavite explain this story in a proper sense? the only thing hard to digest for me was about the gods... i mean, if the things were written about non-supreme powers doing it, i would have no problem comprehending it. but the thing is, shiva and parvathi are together, but was just wondering why only vishnu had to come in mohini avatar, why not parvathi?
As per Bhagvattam, there is no mention of Mohini having any kind of relation with Siva. It is true that Siva goes to Lord Vishnu and begs Him to show Mohini form; Lord Vishnu shows the form to Siva out of pure compassion for His devotee (Siva). Siva falls for the form and even embraces Mohini but nothing happens.
I truly think it is demeaning to Lord Vishnu(Krishna) for anyone to think that the Supreme Lord took a female form and had a union with Siva to have a child. It is also demeaning to Lord Shiva who falls for Mohini form when Lord had Parvati besides him??
I think this is something totally new and made up. People will keep making up new stories and we are expected to keep swallowing them.
A common hindu who worships Lord Shiva will get shocked if he finds that Lord Shiva had a union with mohini and got excited and let his semen fell on ground. How can MahaDEVa (greatest among all Devas) do something like this when he is already married to Mata Parvati? Why did Siva want Mohini in the first place, when he had Mother Parvati by his side (or half his body)? I find all this reprehensible.
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Comments from Vaishnavs and Shavites are most welcome!
Even the story regarding Ayyappan and HariHara has similar context about Shiva and Mohini uniting to give birth to Ayyappa.??
This is what everyone know or should know about Hanuman's origin:
Lord Hanuman was born from Mata Aanjana. She was a Apasara (celestial dancer) in her previous birth named Punjisthala. She and Pavan Dev (God of wind) were in love. But due to certain circumstances, she was cursed to be born into a VAANAR yoni.
The only way to get relief from that curse, Aanjana mata had to pray to Lord Shiva. Lord Shiva gave her boon that in her next life she will give birth to his 11th rudra avatar (Shiva's ansh Avatar) and will get relieved from the curse. At the same time King Kesari was cursed as well to be born into a Vaanar yoni and became husband of Aanjana.
Now you make ask what about Pavan Dev and their love. Well, Lord Shiva suggested to Pavan dev to forget about Punjisthala as their love caused them to be cursed and brought misfortune. So, Pavan dev purified himself by doing tapasya of lord shiva. Aajana Mata had already forgotten about her past life and about Pavan Dev.
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Hanuman is called Pavan Sut, Anjaneya, Kesari nandan, Maruti, Shankar Suvan etc.
There are various puranic stories regarding Hanuman's birth. One can still link them together without much difference though. I will give through them now.
In Ramayan, it was Pavan Dev who impregnated Anjana by planting into her womb a son who would be as swift as him and unique in valor, wisdom and might (this was done without injuring her chastity, simply by embracing her) and thus she gave birth to Hanuman.
So, in Ramayan there is no mentioning of Lord Shiva or anything about Mohini.
Later in Puranas we get to know that Pavan Dev actually transferred the virya (semen/seed) of Shiva in her womb.
Something that does not make sense to me is this story from Shiva Purana that talks about the Shiva's virya.
"One day Siva saw the Mohini form of Vishnu. He was struck by Kama's
arrows and let fall his seed. The Seven Sages put the seed in a pot
and they infused it into the daughter of Gautama through her ear. In
time, Hanuman, the monkey-god, was born from it." -- Siva Purana
There are other Puranic stories relating to Lord Shiva and Mohini's union resulting in falling of Shiva's virya on ground and being carried by Pavan Deva.
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My question/views:
The story of Lord Shiva's union with Mohini and origination of Hanuman seems demeaning to both Lord Vishnu and Shiva as well.
How could someone who is Shavite explain this story in a proper sense? the only thing hard to digest for me was about the gods... i mean, if the things were written about non-supreme powers doing it, i would have no problem comprehending it. but the thing is, shiva and parvathi are together, but was just wondering why only vishnu had to come in mohini avatar, why not parvathi?
As per Bhagvattam, there is no mention of Mohini having any kind of relation with Siva. It is true that Siva goes to Lord Vishnu and begs Him to show Mohini form; Lord Vishnu shows the form to Siva out of pure compassion for His devotee (Siva). Siva falls for the form and even embraces Mohini but nothing happens.
I truly think it is demeaning to Lord Vishnu(Krishna) for anyone to think that the Supreme Lord took a female form and had a union with Siva to have a child. It is also demeaning to Lord Shiva who falls for Mohini form when Lord had Parvati besides him??
I think this is something totally new and made up. People will keep making up new stories and we are expected to keep swallowing them.
A common hindu who worships Lord Shiva will get shocked if he finds that Lord Shiva had a union with mohini and got excited and let his semen fell on ground. How can MahaDEVa (greatest among all Devas) do something like this when he is already married to Mata Parvati? Why did Siva want Mohini in the first place, when he had Mother Parvati by his side (or half his body)? I find all this reprehensible.
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Comments from Vaishnavs and Shavites are most welcome!
Even the story regarding Ayyappan and HariHara has similar context about Shiva and Mohini uniting to give birth to Ayyappa.??