Pat Robertson says Haiti under a Curse

[sojourner]

NEW YORK - Pat Robertson, the American Christian televangelist and host of "The 700 Club," said that Haitians need to have a "great turning to god" Tuesday while he was reporting on the devastating 7.0 earthquake — the most powerful to hit the country in a century.

As Haitian Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive said "well over" 100,000 people may have died in the natural disaster, Robertson took to the airwaves Wednesday on his show and said that the country has been "cursed by one thing after another" since they "swore a pact to the devil."

"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti and people might not want to talk about," Robertson said Tuesday.

"They were under the heel of the French, you know Napoleon the third and whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said 'We will serve you if you will get us free from the prince.' True story. And so the devil said, 'OK it’s a deal.' And they kicked the French out. The Haitians revolted and got something themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by one thing after another," Robertson said.

This is not the first time the former Republican presidential candidate has made controversial comments in the wake of disasters.

He has linked Hurricane Katrina and terrorist attacks to legalized abortion.

"I was reading, yesterday, a book that was very interesting about what God has to say in the Old Testament about those who shed innocent blood…But have we found we are unable somehow to defend ourselves against some of the attacks that are coming against us, either by terrorists or now by natural disaster? Could they be connected in some way?" Robertson said in a September 12, 2005 broadcast of "The 700 Club," soon after Hurricane Katrina.

Pat Robertson: Haiti "Cursed" After "Pact to the Devil" - Crimesider - CBS News

Pat Robertson is a pr***.

 

[Mr Cheese]

No violet I think I am the one that is not with it today "winder".

Look around. Christianity is under attack every day, the world is changing and we are not changing with it. Ever notice where these events happen? Not strongholds of the faithful. The argument of geography can be brought up but the point is moot, natural disasters can happen anywhere, they dont seem to happen much in Christian strongholds.

oh please approx 33% of thwe world are christian....

being attacked? if your faith was anything, it would be water off a ducks back....

christians being attacked? I think you'll find its more stupidity that is being attacked

:sarcastic geez I hate pointless whinging

 

[blackout]

So only the "sinning" christian churches/parishes/denominations
are hit by floods, tornados, hurricanes,
crazy gunmen doing gods work on a sunny sunday morning.

And all the good christian people
who REALLY bad **** happens to
EACH AND EVERY day.
And even while they are out doing god's work.

They must be hiding something....

 

[Mr Cheese]

Pat Robertson is a pr***.

Primrose?
Primate?
Prostate exam glove?
Provable non homosapien jello making aide?

say it ain't so?

 

[Archer]

In the US, from SC/GA to about PA and some areas west.

Europe has some scatted areas as well as the Orthodox areas in the eastern regions of Europe.

In South America there are many christian strongholds as well.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Ok. Praytell... WHERE exactly ARE the Christian "strongholds".
(in your opinion)

Obviously not in anywhere there are fault lines...

california is an obvious satanic charnel pit

as is scotland (the vast majority of scots have renounced christianity)

Haiti is a largely Christian country, with Roman Catholicism professed by 80% of Haitians. Protestants make up about 16% of the population. Haitian Vodou, a New World Afro-diasporic faith unique to the country, is practiced by an undetermined percentage of the population. Religious practice often spans Haiti and its diaspora as those who have migrated interact through religion with family in Haiti.

Haiti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

those naughty catholics...they just arent christians

 

[blackout]

No violet I think I am the one that is not with it today "winder".

Look around. Christianity is under attack every day, the world is changing and we are not changing with it. Ever notice where these events happen? Not strongholds of the faithful. The argument of geography can be brought up but the point is moot, natural disasters can happen anywhere, they dont seem to happen much in Christian strongholds.

A bisexual, polyamorous, LHP, Setian, Sourceress,
would probably have a very hard time sympathizing with your claim to 'christianity under attack'.

Can you imagine why?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Haitian Vodou, a New World Afro-diasporic faith unique to the country.

Which is also a partially Catholic faith using many Christian symbols and beliefs.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Which is also a partially Catholic faith using many Christian symbols and beliefs.

We have already established catholicism isnt christian...accordign to archer...
unless he was wrong in hsi assertion that Haiti is not a "Christian Strong hold":sarcastic

 

[Archer]

Haiti Demographics Profile 2009Population

9,035,536
note: estimates for this country explicitly take into account the effects of excess mortality due to AIDS; this can result in lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality, higher death rates, lower population growth rates, and changes in the distribution of population by age and sex than would otherwise be expected (July 2009 est.)
Age structure

0-14 years: 38.1% (male 1,735,917/female 1,704,383)
15-64 years: 58.5% (male 2,621,059/female 2,665,447)
65 years and over: 3.4% (male 120,040/female 188,690) (2009 est.)
Median age

total: 20.2 years
male: 19.8 years
female: 20.7 years (2009 est.)
Population growth rate

1.838% (2009 est.)
Birth rate

29.1 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate

8.65 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate

-2.07 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Urbanization

urban population: 47% of total population (2008)
rate of urbanization: 4.5% annual rate of change (2005-10 est.)
Sex ratio

at birth: 1.03 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.02 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 0.98 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.64 male(s)/female
total population: 0.98 male(s)/female (2009 est.)
Infant mortality rate

total: 59.69 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 66.18 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 53.01 deaths/1,000 live births (2009 est.)
Life expectancy at birth

total population: 60.78 years
male: 59.13 years
female: 62.48 years (2009 est.)
Total fertility rate

3.81 children born/woman (2009 est.)
HIV/AIDS - adult prevalence rate

2.2% (2007 est.)
HIV/AIDS - people living with HIV/AIDS

120,000 (2007 est.)
HIV/AIDS - deaths

7,200 (2007 est.)
Major infectious diseases

degree of risk: high
food or waterborne diseases: bacterial and protozoal diarrhea, hepatitis A and E, and typhoid fever
vectorborne diseases: dengue fever and malaria
water contact disease: leptospirosis (2009)
Nationality

noun: Haitian(s)
adjective: Haitian
Ethnic groups

black 95%, mulatto and white 5%
Religions

Roman Catholic 80%, Protestant 16% (Baptist 10%, Pentecostal 4%, Adventist 1%, other 1%), none 1%, other 3%
note: roughly half of the population practices voodoo
Languages

French (official), Creole (official)
Literacy

definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 52.9%
male: 54.8%
female: 51.2% (2003 est.)
Education expenditures

1.4% of GDP (1991)


Please note red.

 

[Archer]

If you look at the total demographic the mostly Christian argument does not hole water.

 

[Archer]

We have already established catholicism isnt christian...accordign to archer...

I made no such statement!!! And the 80% thing is misleading.

 

[sojourner]

A bisexual, polyamorous, LHP, Setian, Sourceress,
would probably have a very hard time sympathizing with your claim to 'christianity under attack'.

Can you imagine why?

Sooo...
the Mississippi flood of '93 was in a predominately non-Xian area? What about the San Fran earthquakes? Mt. St. Helens? Earthquakes in predominately Catholic Central America? Massive drought in the Midwest? Shall I go on? :tuna:

Pat doesn't have a moral or theological leg to stand on here.

 

[JMorris]

Pat Robertson said something insane, what a shock!

 

[LittleNipper]

Well, the hemlines of the 1920's dropped drastically in the 1930's --- not to rise to such extreems until the mid-1960's... Clearly Americans once knew what the cause of the Great Depression was. Hint: It was not Christian virtue.

 

[MSizer]

But of course. It makes perfect sense. Several generations ago, some haitians commited a grave sin, so rather than punish them, god waits a few generations and punishes the people who weren't even born at the time of the alleged pact with the devil. Yup, god sure has a fair way dealing with sinners.

 

[Archer]

I was in the NC flood from hurricane Floyd, My home was safe, drug and prostitution infested areas were hardest hit, there was also damage across the board (some very nice areas) but as I said the worst hit were the most sinful areas. An entire town was wiped out, Princeville.

 

[sojourner]

Well, the hemlines of the 1920's dropped drastically in the 1930's --- not to rise to such extreems until the mid-1960's... Clearly Americans once knew what the cause of the Great Depression was. Hint: It was not Christian virtue.

Avarice and greed leap to mind. The same forces in play in our own economic sludge pit.

 

[JMorris]

Well, the hemlines of the 1920's dropped drastically in the 1930's --- not to rise to such extreems until the mid-1960's... Clearly Americans once knew what the cause of the Great Depression was. Hint: It was not Christian virtue.

right, because most americans in the 20s were devil worshiping heathens:sarcastic

most specifically of course those that lived in the mid west and experienced the dust bowl, devil worshipers the lot of them

 

[Mr Cheese]

I made no such statement!!! And the 80% thing is misleading.

ah I see its God's wrath....

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despicable...