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Is it wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin?

Autodidact

Autodidact

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What I've noticed about people who don't have a leg to stand on is that they ignore the questions that make them squirm and hope they go away.

Little Nipper: According to your definition of bigotry, you either agree that same-sex parents are as good as different-sex parents, or you are a bigot. Which is it? Do you agree, or do you meet your definition of bigot? Not mine, LN, yours.

Do you honestly think if you ignore the issue it changes anything? You're still a bigot, according to your own definition, whether you admit it or not. How do you sleep at night, knowing that you think you're a bigot?
 
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Kerr

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They believe that anyone who disapproves of their lifestyle and choices is a bigot. I don't feel that way about them. I just believe what they are doing is wrong.
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That´s a quite huge generalization. Some are bigots, most propobly aren´t.

Personally I fail to see the point of the term here, anyway. It is mostly used as name calling and not a constructive way to continue the discussion... but that is my opinion.
 
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Autodidact

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I don't know, kerr, apparently LN thinks it's a bad thing, and it's someone who forms opinions not supported by research. I'm just waiting for him to decide whether he is one, or whether he's going to base his opinion on the research.
 
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Kerr

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Autodidact said:
I don't know, kerr, apparently LN thinks it's a bad thing, and it's someone who forms opinions not supported by research. I'm just waiting for him to decide whether he is one, or whether he's going to base his opinion on the research.
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I agree, I just don´t think the term in itself is relevant :p.
 
Shadow Wolf

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A homosexual married couple become bigoted when they expect everyone else to accept their state and are belligerent and abusive towards others who will not.
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What's wrong with them expecting people to accept that they are married? It's the norm that a hetero couple's marriage is socially accepted.
 
Autodidact

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LittleNipper said:
If I say I will not hire a homosexual man because I will not provide healthcare for the other man he says he is married to, I'd imagine he'd become rather upset.
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So you're calling someone a bigot based on what you imagine, meanwhile admitting that you yourself meet your own definition of bigot? Prejudge people much? Hypocrite much?
 
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Kerr

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LittleNipper said:
If I say I will not hire a homosexual man because I will not provide healthcare for the other man he says he is married to, I'd imagine he'd become rather upset.
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What´s so strange with people getting upset when someone is a jerk?
 
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Autodidact

Autodidact

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LittleNipper said:
If I say I will not hire a homosexual man because I will not provide healthcare for the other man he says he is married to, I'd imagine he'd become rather upset.
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Well, would you be upset if I refused to hire you because I didn't want to provide health insurance to your wife?
 
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LittleNipper

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Autodidact said:
What I've noticed about people who don't have a leg to stand on is that they ignore the questions that make them squirm and hope they go away.

Little Nipper: According to your definition of bigotry, you either agree that same-sex parents are as good as different-sex parents, or you are a bigot. Which is it? Do you agree, or do you meet your definition of bigot? Not mine, LN, yours.

Do you honestly think if you ignore the issue it changes anything? You're still a bigot, according to your own definition, whether you admit it or not. How do you sleep at night, knowing that you think you're a bigot?
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I'm not and it doesn't, but you certainly are anxiousto try to make it seem so.
 
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emiliano

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I am also a Christian and Im gay. Being Gay is not immoral niether is it a sin. for goodness sake once the church believed that slavery was acceptable to God. The church always changes. Did you know it took 500 years to add some of the books in the bible. The church has been squabbling amoungst themselves for centuries. now the Protestant and catholic split - or even the charismatic movement. You all squabble and are seperated. So you have thee audacity to tell me its your teaching God hates homosexuals. The bible is really silent on homosexuals.Jesus has a poligamist same sex marriage and you are blind. These are facts. I suggest yyou crawl back into your self righteous bigoted hole with all the other pharissees who love your elitist doctrine.
Every sin had consequences . Same sex union has no consequences. hurts noone, and robs noone . Please tell me practically hows homosexual lifestyle has been distructive. you cant.
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Earlier on I said that the first church to carry the name of Christian were organized in accordance to it founder Paul, if you want to change what he wrote in the Epistles (Inspired on him by God) Why do you persist in calling yourself Christians? What reason do we have to recognize you as one? Find a name for these new doctrines, it is prophesy that the Church will corrupt itself, but we have God/Jesus promises that the church will never be without prophets and the Saints that will guide the true Christian church, as for suggesting I to desire that you crawl back to the filth that you live in and to the congregations of Satan that preaches doctrines of demons and attempt to seduce even the elect if that were possible.
 
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Kerr

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emiliano said:
Earlier on I said that the first church to carry the name of Christian were organized in accordance to it founder Paul, if you want to change what he wrote in the Epistles (Inspired on him by God) Why do you persist in calling yourself Christians? What reason do we have to recognize you as one? Find a name for these new doctrines, it is prophesy that the Church will corrupt itself, but we have God/Jesus promises that the church will never be without prophets and the Saints that will guide the true Christian church, as for suggesting I to desire that you crawl back to the filth that you live in and to the congregations of Satan that preaches doctrines of demons and attempt to seduce even the elect if that were possible.
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So, basically, you are saying gay people who think there is nothing wrong with gay marriage are in league with Satan and should not call themselves Christians? Ever heard of the real world? The one that exist outside the fundamentalist world of illusions you appearently live in?
 
Jeremiah

Jeremiah

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emiliano said:
Earlier on I said that the first church to carry the name of Christian were organized in accordance to it founder Paul, if you want to change what he wrote in the Epistles (Inspired on him by God) Why do you persist in calling yourself Christians? What reason do we have to recognize you as one? Find a name for these new doctrines, it is prophesy that the Church will corrupt itself, but we have God/Jesus promises that the church will never be without prophets and the Saints that will guide the true Christian church, as for suggesting I to desire that you crawl back to the filth that you live in and to the congregations of Satan that preaches doctrines of demons and attempt to seduce even the elect if that were possible.
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"What reason do we have to recognize you as one?"

We who? Your hateful type is becoming the minority; this is because of the hate you spread; it cames back on you; it will always come back on you. You are killing your own church, Emiliano, and driving people away from "God" simply because you can't let go of your hate. You should do the church a favor and stop pretending like you speak for "God" and the church.

Evil will turn back on itself, Emiliano, and the seeds of hate you sow today will only hurt your cause tomorrow.
 
Jeremiah

Jeremiah

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LittleNipper said:
If I say I will not hire a homosexual man because I will not provide healthcare for the other man he says he is married to, I'd imagine he'd become rather upset.
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I would imagine so, as most sane people are disturbed by such levels of prejudice. If you did something like that to me I would not only be upset, I'd haul you to court.

Regardless of your religious beliefs you still have to follow the law; no matter how devote you are, you will never be above the law. And if you happen to live in a state that allows gay marriage then you have to honor the legally of that union. This does not mean you have to accept it as OK, simply because it is the law that does not mean you have to like it. No one is asking you to like homosexuals but I do suggest that you simply keep your dislike to yourself. As it hurts people, needlessly.

I also highly doubt "God" would be upset with you for giving fair and equal treatment to a homosexual. It's not like the "sin" is going to rub off on you by simply being around homosexuals. The Bible does not say, "Thou shall not provide homosexuals with insurance."
 
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